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They did the legal bare minimum in terms of attribution, but you're very unlikely to find it unless you're looking for it. I don't usually read through files l

They did the legal bare minimum in terms of attribution, but you're very unlikely to find it unless you're looking for it. I don't usually read through files like ~/.config/chromium/Default/Extensions/bhdnlmmgiplmbcdmkkdfplenecpegfno/0.0.1_0/NOTICE.txt (though perhaps I should).

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prepend 6y ago
That’s to be expected then, the legal bare minimum.
- arbitrage 6y ago
  I had a professor, once, who chewed me out for submitting work at the deadline. I told them that if they wanted me to submit it on Thursday, they shouldn't've set the boundary for Friday at midnight. That didn't go over too well.
  - JoeAltmaier 6y ago
    I'm surprised. A professor objected to a student adhering to the rules pedantically? What's University for!
  - bonoboTP 6y ago
    Interesting cultural differences. In other places if you submit earlier than the deadline they assume you didn't care about it enough to use all available time to make it as good as possible.
  - gus_massa 6y ago
    In a somewhat similar scenario, we had some discussions about what "Friday midnight" means. So just to be super clear, we finally put "Thursday, 11pm".
  - inopinatus 6y ago
    As a range or interval specifier, many (most?) non-programmers will assume the interpretation of “midnight” that favours them in any subsequent dispute. In practice this often means that “from midnight on Monday to midnight on Tuesday” is a 48-hour interval so far as consumers are concerned. I recommend advertising things like cut-off times as “11:59pm” and friends, when possible. Also, my time formatter turns “12:00” into “12 noon” following weary experience of people who confuse 12:00 with midnight.
    - a1369209993 6y ago
      > In practice this often means that "from midnight on Monday to midnight on Tuesday" is a 48-hour interval so far as consumers are concerned. I generally insist on midnight being 0:00 or 24:00 for much the same reasons.
- madeofpalk 6y ago
  Again, this conversation is not about the bare legal minimum. no one is disputing they have acted legally.
  - hartator 6y ago
    > no one is disputing they have acted illegally Probably a typo. But I think you mean “no one is disputing they have acted legally”.
    - madeofpalk 6y ago
      i meant to say something like "the dispute is not about the legality of their actions", but i missed it :)
  - xtracto 6y ago
    Funny, these kind of threads sound similarly to how some companies I have worked for sound when talking about working on Saturdays: Me: Do we have to come to work on Saturdays? Boss: You dont HAVE to... but you know, people come and do work to go the extra mile. Me: Ok, but If I don't come, there's no problem right? Boss: Well, no, there's no problem. But you know, there's lots of work and it is great when people push together. Me: Ok good, yeah I like my work and I like helping others but, I also appreciate my personal life. So... no problem if I decide not coming on Saturday right? Boss: MMhhgh yeah, no problem, but you know, we like to think you are COMMITED to our startup mission. And, then they get angry when I don't go on Saturdays. If you want me to go on Saturdays just put it in the darn contract and tell that as part of the terms when we are negotiating, then I'll walk out and we will all be happy. Same here, if the developer wanted something to happen, then he should have put it in the license. Otherwise, there's no reason to be whining that something that was NOT expected to happen (as per the license) did not happen.
    - petercooper 6y ago
      Sure, but this is a situation about social norms rather than passive aggressive employer behavior. Typically when a product or service is released, if it's built significantly upon something else, you at least throw out a quick acknowledgement. Sure, it's not the law, it's just polite/kind/whatever nice word you prefer to use. All sorts of communities have various 'norms' of this nature which you are totally entitled to ignore but that doesn't mean they're not there.
BurningFrog 6y ago
Still, as the original author, you can point to the attribution to prove your claim.

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prepend 6y ago

That’s to be expected then, the legal bare minimum.

arbitrage 6y ago
I had a professor, once, who chewed me out for submitting work at the deadline. I told them that if they wanted me to submit it on Thursday, they shouldn't've set the boundary for Friday at midnight. That didn't go over too well.
- JoeAltmaier 6y ago
  I'm surprised. A professor objected to a student adhering to the rules pedantically? What's University for!
- bonoboTP 6y ago
  Interesting cultural differences. In other places if you submit earlier than the deadline they assume you didn't care about it enough to use all available time to make it as good as possible.
- gus_massa 6y ago
  In a somewhat similar scenario, we had some discussions about what "Friday midnight" means. So just to be super clear, we finally put "Thursday, 11pm".
- inopinatus 6y ago
  As a range or interval specifier, many (most?) non-programmers will assume the interpretation of “midnight” that favours them in any subsequent dispute. In practice this often means that “from midnight on Monday to midnight on Tuesday” is a 48-hour interval so far as consumers are concerned. I recommend advertising things like cut-off times as “11:59pm” and friends, when possible. Also, my time formatter turns “12:00” into “12 noon” following weary experience of people who confuse 12:00 with midnight.
  - a1369209993 6y ago
    > In practice this often means that "from midnight on Monday to midnight on Tuesday" is a 48-hour interval so far as consumers are concerned. I generally insist on midnight being 0:00 or 24:00 for much the same reasons.
madeofpalk 6y ago
Again, this conversation is not about the bare legal minimum. no one is disputing they have acted legally.
- hartator 6y ago
  > no one is disputing they have acted illegally Probably a typo. But I think you mean “no one is disputing they have acted legally”.
  - madeofpalk 6y ago
    i meant to say something like "the dispute is not about the legality of their actions", but i missed it :)
- xtracto 6y ago
  Funny, these kind of threads sound similarly to how some companies I have worked for sound when talking about working on Saturdays: Me: Do we have to come to work on Saturdays? Boss: You dont HAVE to... but you know, people come and do work to go the extra mile. Me: Ok, but If I don't come, there's no problem right? Boss: Well, no, there's no problem. But you know, there's lots of work and it is great when people push together. Me: Ok good, yeah I like my work and I like helping others but, I also appreciate my personal life. So... no problem if I decide not coming on Saturday right? Boss: MMhhgh yeah, no problem, but you know, we like to think you are COMMITED to our startup mission. And, then they get angry when I don't go on Saturdays. If you want me to go on Saturdays just put it in the darn contract and tell that as part of the terms when we are negotiating, then I'll walk out and we will all be happy. Same here, if the developer wanted something to happen, then he should have put it in the license. Otherwise, there's no reason to be whining that something that was NOT expected to happen (as per the license) did not happen.
  - petercooper 6y ago
    Sure, but this is a situation about social norms rather than passive aggressive employer behavior. Typically when a product or service is released, if it's built significantly upon something else, you at least throw out a quick acknowledgement. Sure, it's not the law, it's just polite/kind/whatever nice word you prefer to use. All sorts of communities have various 'norms' of this nature which you are totally entitled to ignore but that doesn't mean they're not there.

BurningFrog 6y ago

Still, as the original author, you can point to the attribution to prove your claim.