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But there is already a plethora of behavior altering pills. I am a fairly peaceful person. After a week long cortisone treatment due to allergy, I wanted to pun

But there is already a plethora of behavior altering pills. I am a fairly peaceful person. After a week long cortisone treatment due to allergy, I wanted to punch everyone in the face. Compared to that an increase in trait openness seems fairly innocuous to me. Furthermore, my doctor prescribes me cortisone fairly often, but after that first time I decided it's not worth it. So I don't think anyone can be forced to take psychedelics.

nojokes 6y ago
I did not have similar experience with cortisone. It could be that it is very individual also perhaps your dosages were different. My dosages were fairly high and caused multiple unpleasant side effects but anger towards other people was not one of them. Perhaps people could not be forced to take psychedelics but could be tricked to take them.
- teataster 6y ago
  About tricking... I mean, we are talking about psychiatrists using psychedelics to aid therapy, I want to believe they are not the kind of people to trick others. Other than that you are absolutely right. Drug effects depend on dosage and who is taking it. Thing is anger and agressiveness are well known side effects of steroids, and in my opinion doctors are too quick to prescribe them. I feel there is a double standard with drugs, and issues that are found in, say, psychedelics seem to be non issues with other prescription or recreational drugs. But that is my opinion and I do not think is more valid than anyone else. Honestly, I believe all drugs to be dangerous, and utmost caution should be taken when using, even with otc painkillers. I am not necessarily for legalization, but definitely for decriminalization. I do not believe having psychedelics widely available for public consumption is necessarily a good idea (I carefully worded that sentence, please notice). Same goes for alcohol tho.
  - teataster 6y ago
    As a curiosity note, when I asked my friend's dad how did he managed to get 3 degrees and 2 PhDs, his answer was: "Bear in mind amphetamines were sold over the counter back then."
Broken_Hippo 6y ago
Not everything affects your like corisone, though - just like being drunk isn't like being high. Steroids are known to increase aggression in some people: I've had them through an IV, which made me hallucinate, and then pills (prednisone) that made me miss sleep (once for inflamation, at a fairly high dose, and once for an allergy at a lower dose). The hallucinations were of an uncomfortable sort and not at all like what I'd get off of LSD or shrooms. None of these things are quite like the alters of MDMA. Similarly, none of the things I mentioned are like psychiatric drugs. Heck, some psychiatric drugs are for the same thing, but work better for one person than the other. Heck, Tylenol (Paracet) has been shown to ease emotional pain. Just because one thing is uncomfortable doesn't mean these others are worthless, nor does already having mind altering pills mean that there isn't room for the other ones.

nojokes 6y ago

I did not have similar experience with cortisone. It could be that it is very individual also perhaps your dosages were different. My dosages were fairly high and caused multiple unpleasant side effects but anger towards other people was not one of them. Perhaps people could not be forced to take psychedelics but could be tricked to take them.

teataster 6y ago
About tricking... I mean, we are talking about psychiatrists using psychedelics to aid therapy, I want to believe they are not the kind of people to trick others. Other than that you are absolutely right. Drug effects depend on dosage and who is taking it. Thing is anger and agressiveness are well known side effects of steroids, and in my opinion doctors are too quick to prescribe them. I feel there is a double standard with drugs, and issues that are found in, say, psychedelics seem to be non issues with other prescription or recreational drugs. But that is my opinion and I do not think is more valid than anyone else. Honestly, I believe all drugs to be dangerous, and utmost caution should be taken when using, even with otc painkillers. I am not necessarily for legalization, but definitely for decriminalization. I do not believe having psychedelics widely available for public consumption is necessarily a good idea (I carefully worded that sentence, please notice). Same goes for alcohol tho.
- teataster 6y ago
  As a curiosity note, when I asked my friend's dad how did he managed to get 3 degrees and 2 PhDs, his answer was: "Bear in mind amphetamines were sold over the counter back then."

Broken_Hippo 6y ago

Not everything affects your like corisone, though - just like being drunk isn't like being high. Steroids are known to increase aggression in some people: I've had them through an IV, which made me hallucinate, and then pills (prednisone) that made me miss sleep (once for inflamation, at a fairly high dose, and once for an allergy at a lower dose). The hallucinations were of an uncomfortable sort and not at all like what I'd get off of LSD or shrooms. None of these things are quite like the alters of MDMA. Similarly, none of the things I mentioned are like psychiatric drugs. Heck, some psychiatric drugs are for the same thing, but work better for one person than the other. Heck, Tylenol (Paracet) has been shown to ease emotional pain. Just because one thing is uncomfortable doesn't mean these others are worthless, nor does already having mind altering pills mean that there isn't room for the other ones.