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> I always found this argument lacking, like what is that supposed to show me... that there were these 20 times he denounced them and then this VERY publicly on
by JamesBarney 6y ago
> I always found this argument lacking, like what is that supposed to show me... that there were these 20 times he denounced them and then this VERY publicly one time he didn't?
Yes. This tells you his public stance is that he's anti white supremacist and willing to denounce them.
Do you honestly think he chose the debates as a the best time to secretly signal his base that he's a closet KKK member?
> like imagine this was like child trafficking or something. you denounce that shit heavily each and every time, no ambiguity, no question. even if you're asked to do it 50 times it should be 50/50. the fact that people have to pull that as a "defense" is ridiculous lol.
If my wife asks if I love her 50 times and I say yes 49 times, but once I get distracted. Which is more likely I secretly hate my wife or I just got distracted.
- int_19h 6y agoHis base certainly took it as a very good time, if you've seen how e.g. the Proud Boys reacted to it.
- wang_li 6y agoProud Boys aren’t white supremacists though.
- jacobush 6y agoLet's put it this way. The Proud Boys have more white supremacists among them than the general population have.
- JamesBarney 6y agoVery different than being a white supremacist organization.
- int_19h 6y ago"I love being white and I think it's something to be very proud of" - Gavin McInnes, the founder of Proud Boys The group claims to not be racist, yes, and they do have non-white members. However, their specific stances on various issues do add up to a white supremacist group in practice. As for non-white membership, it seems to be more along the lines of "honorary Aryans".
- retox 6y ago"I want to get the language so right that everyone here will cry out: ‘Yes, I’m Black, I’m proud of it. I’m Black and I’m beautiful!”" - Dr Martin Luther King Jr. https://youtu.be/nGLF0X3WIiE https://youtu.be/nGLF0X3WIiE Was Dr King a black supremacist?
- cycomanic 6y agoSo explain to me how do you get distracted in a presidential debate and when asked to condem a white supremacist group you say "proud boys stand back and stand by" that's not how you get distracted and forget to say something, that is how you talk to what you consider "your troops/team".
- slowmotiony 6y agoJust so we're clear, the black dudes in PB are white supremacist but the 100% white leftist groups are fighting for diversity? Gotcha.
- JamesBarney 6y agoYou're in your 70s and coming down with covid, the moderator asks you to tell white supremacists to "stand down". You ask the moderator who should you say that to? Biden interjects "proud boys". You try to repeat what the moderator told you but instead tell them to "stand back"/"stand by" instead of stand down. Literally one of the people explaining how trump supports white supremacists to me made this exact same mistake despite him being in his 30s and not coming down with covid. Trump is a terrible president for plenty of reasons, we don't need to make ones up.