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For-profit dev programs, or for-profit trade schools? There are some good programs that teach dev and can go online with minimal hiccups, but that's a tiny, tin
by phobosanomaly 6y ago
For-profit dev programs, or for-profit trade schools? There are some good programs that teach dev and can go online with minimal hiccups, but that's a tiny, tiny subset of technical/trade schools.
I don't mean to paint with a broad brush, but there is some really sketchy stuff going on in this space. I can't sum it up better than the California DOJ.
"Be careful and do your homework before enrolling in a “for-profit” college or career training college. The for-profit college and career training industry is not part of the public school system; they operate schools to maximize profits for their investors. For-profit schools have been accused of fraud, abuse, and predatory practices targeting the poor, veterans and minorities by offering expensive degrees that often fail to deliver promised skills and jobs. Students have complained about aggressive recruiting practices, misleading graduation and employment rates, and illegal debt collection practices—their complaints suggest that many graduates can’t get jobs or afford to repay their loans. If you are not careful, enrolling in a for-profit school may leave you under a mountain of debt, but not help you get a job."
https://oag.ca.gov/consumers/general/for-profit-schools https://oag.ca.gov/consumers/general/for-profit-schools
Brookings did a whole long thing on it:
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/The-Failings-of-Online-For-profit-Colleges.pdf https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/The-Fai...
"CRL’s focus group research shows that students that enroll in for-profit online programs
are attracted by easy enrollment and assistance in procuring student financial aid, but
are subsequently disappointed with the poor quality of education provided. Their hopes
of improved financial stability through the pursuit of higher education meet head on
with disappointing labor market outcomes and unsustainable levels of student debt"
Anything that hits community colleges hard is absolutely tragic, since they're an affordable, non-predatory path to the middle class for a lot of people. There's no community college pressuring people to take out student loans, or misrepresenting career paths to cash in on GI bill money. They offer absolutely incredible value compared to a for-profit college, or even the first two years of a public university.
- MeinBlutIstBlau 6y agoTechnical colleges that are publicly funded. Their market targets students wanting to save money before transferring to a universty and adults looking to go back to school. They are cognizant of adults who work full time and have children so they know devoting full time schedule of courses (or even half time) by forcing them to come to a class every week as opposed to just making online courses that say "Get these things done by these defined deadlines" is unrealistic. Hence why the do basically all courses online save for the ones that legitimately can't (like truck driving, welding, trades, dental, nursing, etc).
- phobosanomaly 6y agoAre you referring to community colleges? In the US, at least, community colleges are the only publicly-funded technical colleges I am aware of that exist on a meaningful scale.