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I just tried this with a melody I've had stuck in my head for days - no results. Then I tried "Happy Birthday" and got three results: "Las Mananitas" by Canti

by Uhhrrr 6y ago

I just tried this with a melody I've had stuck in my head for days - no results. Then I tried "Happy Birthday" and got three results: "Las Mananitas" by Canticos "Iyi Ki Dogdun Melissa", by Eser Ulun "Iyi Ki Dogdun Zarife", by Eser Ulun I'm no Pavarotti, but I can sing on pitch and have played the violin for 40 years. EDIT: Heh, "Iyi Ki Dogdun" is Turkish for Happy Birthday, and the links would have taken me to YouTube videos of the song sung in Turkish, then English. But why not to videos in English? YouTube has some, and I'm an Anglophone user in the USA.

youeseh 6y ago
Sorry, it's built for people who can't sing. You'll have to find a friend with a chalkboard voice.
- brlewis 6y ago
  That's probably it. I'm not a great singer, and I wanted to see if it could recognize my attempt at a challenging melody. It got "Everybody Wants You" by Billy Squier, first try.
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flobosg 6y ago
"Las Mañanitas" is a traditional Mexican birthday song. "Cánticos" means just "chants".
- Uhhrrr 6y ago
  Huh! So it is. But the couple versions I found started with a verse with a different melody before going to Happy Birthday.
  - flobosg 6y ago
    Google probably based the suggestion on this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynnhJiGRcVo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynnhJiGRcVo) which is actually a section from Las Mañanitas followed by Happy Birthday.
StavrosK 6y ago
What's the melody? Vocaroo it!
- Uhhrrr 6y ago
  https://voca.ro/7Cx7OD3Vqc2 https://voca.ro/7Cx7OD3Vqc2 I'm pretty sure it's an instrument line, not vocal.
  - StavrosK 6y ago
    Hmm, doesn't ring a bell :(
  - anjc 6y ago
    Twin Peaks theme? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXrjMaVoTy0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXrjMaVoTy0
    - Uhhrrr 6y ago
      I love that theme and it matches notes 2-4, but nope. I'm fairly sure it's an intro/outro/solo melody over a rock song.
parekhnish 6y ago
I think that, as of this moment, the tool does not take the user's current region into account. I know two songs that are very similar[0][1], but from vastly different regions, and I could easily get them both detected by this tool just by humming slightly differently. [0] https://youtu.be/E8gmARGvPlI?t=17 https://youtu.be/E8gmARGvPlI?t=17 [1] https://youtu.be/mSu5cz2GFts?t=43 https://youtu.be/mSu5cz2GFts?t=43
chaosharmonic 6y ago
I just tried "Hymn of the Fayth" and got none, despite the fact that there's a version of it that's literally just hummed.
yeahboats 6y ago
My Turkish isn't great but, iyi ki dogdun translates to "good thing you were born" which always amused me. Happy birthday is more like "dogum gunun kutlu olsun" (something like, may your day of birth be celebrated). It's always fun to see how language gets worked with to fit a certain melody.
mmm_grayons 6y ago
I wonder, does it know how to transpose? People may end up humming tunes in different keys that their voices can more easily reach. Also, why the hell do I need an app for this? Is it actually running a local model? Because my guess is that it's just hitting an API.
- Uhhrrr 6y ago
  I wondered whether pitch might play a role. EDIT: singing in a higher key got me English results, so I guess so? There's no way it would do much locally, but maybe they just wanted to make sure the audio passed to the API has a certain sample rate and encoding?
  - ciaranb4 6y ago
    Very unlikely that they are considering the actual sung or hummed pitch as very few people, including professional musicians, would start singing at the correct pitch without accompaniment. Most likely they are mapping the interval between the sung notes and using that as part of the ‘melodic fingerprint’ for matching.
btbuildem 6y ago
There was some nonsense about "Happy Birthday" being copyrighted.. maybe it's a holdover from that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You#Copyright_status https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You#Copyrigh...
- askvictor 6y ago
  I would have thought this system would work _mainly_ with copyrighted songs.
- IggleSniggle 6y ago
  It was a big deal, but yeah regardless of how it used to be, that copyright has expired
JxLS-cpgbe0 6y ago
"Happy birthday" was the first thing I tried. Worked perfectly with a loud TV on in the background.
tshaddox 6y ago
I hummed it very roughly and got "Las Mañanitas" followed by "Happy Birthday to You."
kbenson 6y ago
I'm not sure how you were doing it, but when I think of "hum", I think of making a noise with my mouth closed. I found opening my mouth and making a tone worked much better. I'm not sure how many people think of hum the same way. I've noticed lately some words being used slightly differently than I am used to (the one coming to mind right now is "giggle" in a story that in context I would interpret as meaning "chuckle"), and at this point it's happening enough that I'm not sure if there's a shift in perception of these words or if I just always interpreted them more narrowly than they were intended.
- Uhhrrr 6y ago
  Your interpretations of "hum", and "giggle" being different from "chuckle" (tee-hee vs heh heh), are the same as mine. I tried using my mouth open and didn't get significantly different results, though.

by Uhhrrr 6y ago

youeseh 6y ago

Sorry, it's built for people who can't sing. You'll have to find a friend with a chalkboard voice.

brlewis 6y ago
That's probably it. I'm not a great singer, and I wanted to see if it could recognize my attempt at a challenging melody. It got "Everybody Wants You" by Billy Squier, first try.

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flobosg 6y ago

"Las Mañanitas" is a traditional Mexican birthday song. "Cánticos" means just "chants".

Uhhrrr 6y ago
Huh! So it is. But the couple versions I found started with a verse with a different melody before going to Happy Birthday.
- flobosg 6y ago
  Google probably based the suggestion on this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynnhJiGRcVo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynnhJiGRcVo) which is actually a section from Las Mañanitas followed by Happy Birthday.

StavrosK 6y ago

What's the melody? Vocaroo it!

Uhhrrr 6y ago
https://voca.ro/7Cx7OD3Vqc2 https://voca.ro/7Cx7OD3Vqc2 I'm pretty sure it's an instrument line, not vocal.
- StavrosK 6y ago
  Hmm, doesn't ring a bell :(
- anjc 6y ago
  Twin Peaks theme? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXrjMaVoTy0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXrjMaVoTy0
  - Uhhrrr 6y ago
    I love that theme and it matches notes 2-4, but nope. I'm fairly sure it's an intro/outro/solo melody over a rock song.

parekhnish 6y ago

I think that, as of this moment, the tool does not take the user's current region into account. I know two songs that are very similar[0][1], but from vastly different regions, and I could easily get them both detected by this tool just by humming slightly differently. [0] https://youtu.be/E8gmARGvPlI?t=17 https://youtu.be/E8gmARGvPlI?t=17 [1] https://youtu.be/mSu5cz2GFts?t=43 https://youtu.be/mSu5cz2GFts?t=43

chaosharmonic 6y ago

I just tried "Hymn of the Fayth" and got none, despite the fact that there's a version of it that's literally just hummed.

yeahboats 6y ago

My Turkish isn't great but, iyi ki dogdun translates to "good thing you were born" which always amused me. Happy birthday is more like "dogum gunun kutlu olsun" (something like, may your day of birth be celebrated). It's always fun to see how language gets worked with to fit a certain melody.

mmm_grayons 6y ago

I wonder, does it know how to transpose? People may end up humming tunes in different keys that their voices can more easily reach. Also, why the hell do I need an app for this? Is it actually running a local model? Because my guess is that it's just hitting an API.

Uhhrrr 6y ago
I wondered whether pitch might play a role. EDIT: singing in a higher key got me English results, so I guess so? There's no way it would do much locally, but maybe they just wanted to make sure the audio passed to the API has a certain sample rate and encoding?
- ciaranb4 6y ago
  Very unlikely that they are considering the actual sung or hummed pitch as very few people, including professional musicians, would start singing at the correct pitch without accompaniment. Most likely they are mapping the interval between the sung notes and using that as part of the ‘melodic fingerprint’ for matching.

btbuildem 6y ago

There was some nonsense about "Happy Birthday" being copyrighted.. maybe it's a holdover from that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You#Copyright_status https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You#Copyrigh...

askvictor 6y ago
I would have thought this system would work _mainly_ with copyrighted songs.
IggleSniggle 6y ago
It was a big deal, but yeah regardless of how it used to be, that copyright has expired

JxLS-cpgbe0 6y ago

"Happy birthday" was the first thing I tried. Worked perfectly with a loud TV on in the background.

tshaddox 6y ago

I hummed it very roughly and got "Las Mañanitas" followed by "Happy Birthday to You."

kbenson 6y ago

I'm not sure how you were doing it, but when I think of "hum", I think of making a noise with my mouth closed. I found opening my mouth and making a tone worked much better. I'm not sure how many people think of hum the same way. I've noticed lately some words being used slightly differently than I am used to (the one coming to mind right now is "giggle" in a story that in context I would interpret as meaning "chuckle"), and at this point it's happening enough that I'm not sure if there's a shift in perception of these words or if I just always interpreted them more narrowly than they were intended.

Uhhrrr 6y ago
Your interpretations of "hum", and "giggle" being different from "chuckle" (tee-hee vs heh heh), are the same as mine. I tried using my mouth open and didn't get significantly different results, though.