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But they are explicitly not liable, that's why their position makes no sense...in fact their curation/censorship for this news event could make them liable for

But they are explicitly not liable, that's why their position makes no sense...in fact their curation/censorship for this news event could make them liable for -other- posts that are completely unrelated. One of my takes is that Twitter leadership is completely incompetent. Facebook didn't censor the story completely, Twitter did. Twitter is arguably one of the most valuable (if not the most valuable) platforms for news in the entire world...yet they can barely make any money. This isn't the first time Twitter has massively botched something so simple. It really comes down to a detached CEO, and incompetent leadership.

tootie 6y ago
They may not be legally liable but they are desperately trying to avoid alienating too many users by being party to questionable actions. A client of mine recently asked to divest from Cloudflare because they have the Proud Boys as a customer. As much as Cloudflare has no legal obligation to police the content they host, customers can vote with their feet.
- partiallypro 6y ago
  They alienated a solid 40-50% of their entire user base (within the US) because of their decision. I doubt Cloudflare would miss an investor given their current equity status.
  - ProcNetDev 6y ago
    Big citation needed on that. I highly doubt twitter's user base is 40% Republican-trump supporters. Only 20% of their use base in is in the US. And Republicans need to remember that because of the electoral college their electoral wins do not mean there is a silent majority of supporters out there.
    - partiallypro 6y ago
      I clearly meant within the United States, and even with popular vote the country is fairly 50/50, 40/60 at worst.
      - alpha_squared 6y ago
        If I recall correctly, the last time Republicans won the popular vote was 2004. Last time before that was 1988. The Republican party is massively over-represented in American politics at nearly every level and has been for decades.
        partiallypro 6y ago
        Not sure that has anything to do with what I said "a solid 40-50%" being Conservative/Republican leaning. Obama didn't even get close to 55% in his best year. I wouldn't call a ~.5-2% difference "massive" (especially when most Americans don't identify with either party) but anyhow your opinion of the electoral college and the Senate is completely off topic and not even related to what I just said.
        roody15 6y ago
        This is a bit misleading since Republicans focus on winning the electoral college. If republicans needed to win the popular vote they would campaign harder in high population urban centers and the popular vote counts would be much closer.
      - strangeattractr 6y ago
        50/50 of a voter turnout around 50%. If half the country doesn't bother voting I doubt this is alienating them.
    - MinusGix 6y ago
      While I do agree that a citation would be useful, just because this decision alienates people doesn't make the alienated group just Republican-Trump supporters or even just Republicans. As it is more a freedom of spreading information issue. (I don't care what Biden's son does in his free time and it doesn't affect my opinion of Biden much at all).
intrasight 6y ago
>yet they can barely make any money That's true of most of the other "valuable" news platforms too. Probably because people want entertainment not news ;)
TheRealDunkirk 6y ago
A large part of the news/money problem is the practical, space-and-time-saving desire to reduce an almost hopelessly complex, point-in-time decision to a single, overarching, global statement, such as "It really comes down to a detached CEO, and incompetent leadership." And when you boil this desire down to Twitter's level of brevity, it gets completely untenable. Someone else in this thread argues that Twitter may be the most-important news service going now, and I agree. The fact that the platform itself is specifically engineered to be so antithetical to honest fact and debate really demonstrates our societal values about money versus truth or social cohesion.

tootie 6y ago

They may not be legally liable but they are desperately trying to avoid alienating too many users by being party to questionable actions. A client of mine recently asked to divest from Cloudflare because they have the Proud Boys as a customer. As much as Cloudflare has no legal obligation to police the content they host, customers can vote with their feet.

partiallypro 6y ago
They alienated a solid 40-50% of their entire user base (within the US) because of their decision. I doubt Cloudflare would miss an investor given their current equity status.
- ProcNetDev 6y ago
  Big citation needed on that. I highly doubt twitter's user base is 40% Republican-trump supporters. Only 20% of their use base in is in the US. And Republicans need to remember that because of the electoral college their electoral wins do not mean there is a silent majority of supporters out there.
  - partiallypro 6y ago
    I clearly meant within the United States, and even with popular vote the country is fairly 50/50, 40/60 at worst.
    - alpha_squared 6y ago
      If I recall correctly, the last time Republicans won the popular vote was 2004. Last time before that was 1988. The Republican party is massively over-represented in American politics at nearly every level and has been for decades.
      - partiallypro 6y ago
        Not sure that has anything to do with what I said "a solid 40-50%" being Conservative/Republican leaning. Obama didn't even get close to 55% in his best year. I wouldn't call a ~.5-2% difference "massive" (especially when most Americans don't identify with either party) but anyhow your opinion of the electoral college and the Senate is completely off topic and not even related to what I just said.
      - roody15 6y ago
        This is a bit misleading since Republicans focus on winning the electoral college. If republicans needed to win the popular vote they would campaign harder in high population urban centers and the popular vote counts would be much closer.
    - strangeattractr 6y ago
      50/50 of a voter turnout around 50%. If half the country doesn't bother voting I doubt this is alienating them.
  - MinusGix 6y ago
    While I do agree that a citation would be useful, just because this decision alienates people doesn't make the alienated group just Republican-Trump supporters or even just Republicans. As it is more a freedom of spreading information issue. (I don't care what Biden's son does in his free time and it doesn't affect my opinion of Biden much at all).

intrasight 6y ago

>yet they can barely make any money That's true of most of the other "valuable" news platforms too. Probably because people want entertainment not news ;)

TheRealDunkirk 6y ago

A large part of the news/money problem is the practical, space-and-time-saving desire to reduce an almost hopelessly complex, point-in-time decision to a single, overarching, global statement, such as "It really comes down to a detached CEO, and incompetent leadership." And when you boil this desire down to Twitter's level of brevity, it gets completely untenable. Someone else in this thread argues that Twitter may be the most-important news service going now, and I agree. The fact that the platform itself is specifically engineered to be so antithetical to honest fact and debate really demonstrates our societal values about money versus truth or social cohesion.