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This is not true and does not cover fraud.

• andrew_ 6y ago
  incorrect. you're conflating action with speech. engaging in fraud is not speech. If I told you that I owned a hedge fund and would make you 10x returns, that's speech. If I take your money with the promise of 10x returns and enroll you in a scheme, that's an action.
  • 8note 6y ago
    It's certainly possible to twist this situation around to where I don't give you money, like giving it to the guy right next to you. The action there is separate from the speech. I imagine for these disinformation type campaigns, the action is voting
  • millzlane 6y ago
    >If I told you that I owned a hedge fund and would make you 10x returns, that's speech. If I gave you money based on that speech it would be hard to argue in court that you didn't engage in fraud. I'm not a lawyer, so I'll agree with you.
    • andrew_ 6y ago
      the sentence immediately following the one you quoted asserts as much. are you agreeing or trying to make the same point with different words?
  • devilduck 6y ago
    Speech is an action.