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Definitely interesting > They also negotiated deals with local African rulers, many of whom engaged in war and kidnapping on behalf of slave traders from Europ

Definitely interesting > They also negotiated deals with local African rulers, many of whom engaged in war and kidnapping on behalf of slave traders from Europe and the Americas ... < This seems to imply that African rulers engaged in war and kidnapping only for European and American slave traders. Slavery had been widespread within Africa for centuries, arguably for millenia, and continues there to this very day

x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago
The slave trade within Africa and the rest of the world as people ALWAYS like to bring up is a world of difference from the transatlantic slave trade.
- rendall 6y ago
  You seem upset. The Atlantic slave trade was awful. No one said it wasn't. It's also exaggerated as somehow "more awful" than other kinds of slavery, which even if true, I suspect is cold comfort to the hereditary slaves of Mauritania, Dubai, Haiti and Sudan, among others. It's a kind of weird American culture imperialism: no, the shameful period of American and European slavery is not "worse" than the suffering of slaves today. "...as people ALWAYS like to bring up " All benighted degenerates, slavers, shall be beaten by their moral betters one day, as the Kroomen did, as the British Navy did, as the Union Army did. Let no one be ashamed to talk about slavery and name slavers until the shameful, evil practice is ended for all time
  - x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago
    The world hasn't seen slavery to the level of the transatlantic slave trade since the transatlantic slave trade. No one, I assure you, no one compares what is happening in those countries you listed (and why Haiti is there I'll never know) to the scope of the transatlantic slave trade. But alas, you did what I said people do to a tee which is run off and bring in unrelated systems into the discussion.
    - rendall 6y ago
      >> The world hasn't seen slavery to the level of the transatlantic slave trade since the transatlantic slave trade By any measure, this is untrue. "In 2019, approximately 40 million people, of whom 26 percent were children, were enslaved throughout the world despite it being illegal. In the modern world, more than 50 percent of enslaved people provide forced labor, usually in the factories and sweatshops of the private sector of a country's economy." 40. Million. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/feb/25/modern-slavery-trafficking-persons-one-in-200 https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/feb/25/modern-slavery-...

x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago

The slave trade within Africa and the rest of the world as people ALWAYS like to bring up is a world of difference from the transatlantic slave trade.

rendall 6y ago
You seem upset. The Atlantic slave trade was awful. No one said it wasn't. It's also exaggerated as somehow "more awful" than other kinds of slavery, which even if true, I suspect is cold comfort to the hereditary slaves of Mauritania, Dubai, Haiti and Sudan, among others. It's a kind of weird American culture imperialism: no, the shameful period of American and European slavery is not "worse" than the suffering of slaves today. "...as people ALWAYS like to bring up " All benighted degenerates, slavers, shall be beaten by their moral betters one day, as the Kroomen did, as the British Navy did, as the Union Army did. Let no one be ashamed to talk about slavery and name slavers until the shameful, evil practice is ended for all time
- x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago
  The world hasn't seen slavery to the level of the transatlantic slave trade since the transatlantic slave trade. No one, I assure you, no one compares what is happening in those countries you listed (and why Haiti is there I'll never know) to the scope of the transatlantic slave trade. But alas, you did what I said people do to a tee which is run off and bring in unrelated systems into the discussion.
  - rendall 6y ago
    >> The world hasn't seen slavery to the level of the transatlantic slave trade since the transatlantic slave trade By any measure, this is untrue. "In 2019, approximately 40 million people, of whom 26 percent were children, were enslaved throughout the world despite it being illegal. In the modern world, more than 50 percent of enslaved people provide forced labor, usually in the factories and sweatshops of the private sector of a country's economy." 40. Million. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/feb/25/modern-slavery-trafficking-persons-one-in-200 https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/feb/25/modern-slavery-...