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1000 dead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Belarus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Belarus more than 450 documented cases

1000 dead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Belarus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Belarus more than 450 documented cases of torture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_issues_related_to_the_suppression_of_the_2020_Belarusian_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_issues_related_to... Apple's censorship of Telegram is condoning this.

dvfjsdhgfv 6y ago
I realize what protesters do is the only semi-peaceful way of delaing with police brutality. On the other hand, these people whose photos gets published often receive threats (and their families too). Basically the people publishing and distributing these images are responsible for what happens next. I understand Apple would prefer not to participate in this.
- echelon 6y ago
  > I understand Apple would prefer not to participate in this. Apple is a legal person and has to make a moral judgment call. It made the wrong one.
dkonofalski 6y ago
I agree with your sentiment for this particular case but think it's crazy that you're saying Apple is condoning this when this exact same rule would have protected and prevented against situations where innocent people were on the receiving end of this information. Reddit screwed up big time, for example, when the mob went after the wrong person during the Boston bombing and people got hurt. What if the wrong person is identified? What if the identifying information is wrong? Yes, there's a moral component to all of this but there's also a precedent that you're setting and I doubt Apple wants to be in the role of deciding whether this personal info is the "right" personal info to be out there.
- jiofih 6y ago
  The whole point is that they shouldn’t be deciding at all. You can walk over to your neighbors and share that info, you can post it on Reddit, you can post it on Telegram. If it’s wrong or not should be decided by the law and community policies, not the device manufacturer.
  - dkonofalski 6y ago
    Umm... it was. That's literally the entire issue being discussed her. The Belarusian government and law enforcement decided it was wrong and asked the developer and Apple to remove those posts.

dvfjsdhgfv 6y ago

I realize what protesters do is the only semi-peaceful way of delaing with police brutality. On the other hand, these people whose photos gets published often receive threats (and their families too). Basically the people publishing and distributing these images are responsible for what happens next. I understand Apple would prefer not to participate in this.

echelon 6y ago
> I understand Apple would prefer not to participate in this. Apple is a legal person and has to make a moral judgment call. It made the wrong one.

dkonofalski 6y ago

I agree with your sentiment for this particular case but think it's crazy that you're saying Apple is condoning this when this exact same rule would have protected and prevented against situations where innocent people were on the receiving end of this information. Reddit screwed up big time, for example, when the mob went after the wrong person during the Boston bombing and people got hurt. What if the wrong person is identified? What if the identifying information is wrong? Yes, there's a moral component to all of this but there's also a precedent that you're setting and I doubt Apple wants to be in the role of deciding whether this personal info is the "right" personal info to be out there.

jiofih 6y ago
The whole point is that they shouldn’t be deciding at all. You can walk over to your neighbors and share that info, you can post it on Reddit, you can post it on Telegram. If it’s wrong or not should be decided by the law and community policies, not the device manufacturer.
- dkonofalski 6y ago
  Umm... it was. That's literally the entire issue being discussed her. The Belarusian government and law enforcement decided it was wrong and asked the developer and Apple to remove those posts.