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I have a similar reaction to your posts in this thread, and while you are indeed careful with your phrasing, the end result seems very biased to me. This is pa

I have a similar reaction to your posts in this thread, and while you are indeed careful with your phrasing, the end result seems very biased to me. This is partly because I have substantial bias of my own. =) The statement that tipped me towards thinking you were defensive about Apple was here: > One of the problems is that most of what people call ‘bugs’ or relevant ‘information’ about Apple is actually false. No one challenged this, and you just dropped it there like it's a fact. I don't know that to be true at all, and even if it were, I don't think it justifies Apple's behavior towards a developer trying to inform their users about their efforts to work around a bug on the platform. Users knowing about a flaw in their device's OS is highly relevant to them, and indeed may inform whether they want to purchase such devices again. I believe Apple is wrong to try and prevent developers from communicating this through the app store, but I read your comments as defending it. I won't try and argue that Apple doesn't have a right to do so, however. I think they do, and this is precisely why I don't buy their products.

zepto 6y ago
It’s worth pointing out that ‘bias’ is a fairly meaningless word to be using here. It’s pretty obvious that ‘Jedimind’ is biased, isn’t it? As to my comment about ‘bugs’ etc. I don’t think it takes much to confirm that statement. Just look around online and in the press and then investigate in detail. What you will find is some kernels of truth, plus a vast amount of telephone-game like inaccuracy. This isn’t unique to Apple - it’s simply a feature of our current public discourse. By raising this, I’m just pointing out that Apple is operating in that real world, so to expect them to operate idealistically is unrealistic. As to me defending Apple - is it possible it only seems like this because my tone is less angry than some other people here? Take another look at what I’ve said. I don’t think you’ll find me anywhere saying their behavior is justified and you will find several places where I unequivocally say it’s wrong. I don’t think this is any different to your final paragraph. We can simultaneously think they are wrong, and try to understand what they are dealing with when they make their decisions. These two things don’t have to be in conflict. What I often see is the desire to make simplistic declarations that reduce Apple to some kind of demon where the wrong decisions or compromises they make are evidence that this is something fundamental about them to just rage about, rather than a problem to be understood. I see this as a kind of self-deception, which I would prefer not to fall into. When you look around the thread, where people are comparing Apple to the Gestapo and shrilly calling for them to be “smashed”, and their money confiscated and redistributed, do you really think that my ‘bias’ is the issue here?
- jessaustin 6y ago
  I'm glad I read all the way to the end. Somehow I had missed the "Apple doesn't have bugs" statement the first time.
  - zepto 6y ago
    What statement is that? Are you referring to something I am supposed to have said?

zepto 6y ago

It’s worth pointing out that ‘bias’ is a fairly meaningless word to be using here. It’s pretty obvious that ‘Jedimind’ is biased, isn’t it? As to my comment about ‘bugs’ etc. I don’t think it takes much to confirm that statement. Just look around online and in the press and then investigate in detail. What you will find is some kernels of truth, plus a vast amount of telephone-game like inaccuracy. This isn’t unique to Apple - it’s simply a feature of our current public discourse. By raising this, I’m just pointing out that Apple is operating in that real world, so to expect them to operate idealistically is unrealistic. As to me defending Apple - is it possible it only seems like this because my tone is less angry than some other people here? Take another look at what I’ve said. I don’t think you’ll find me anywhere saying their behavior is justified and you will find several places where I unequivocally say it’s wrong. I don’t think this is any different to your final paragraph. We can simultaneously think they are wrong, and try to understand what they are dealing with when they make their decisions. These two things don’t have to be in conflict. What I often see is the desire to make simplistic declarations that reduce Apple to some kind of demon where the wrong decisions or compromises they make are evidence that this is something fundamental about them to just rage about, rather than a problem to be understood. I see this as a kind of self-deception, which I would prefer not to fall into. When you look around the thread, where people are comparing Apple to the Gestapo and shrilly calling for them to be “smashed”, and their money confiscated and redistributed, do you really think that my ‘bias’ is the issue here?

jessaustin 6y ago
I'm glad I read all the way to the end. Somehow I had missed the "Apple doesn't have bugs" statement the first time.
- zepto 6y ago
  What statement is that? Are you referring to something I am supposed to have said?