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Ok I'll take the bait. What do you see? What's high(er) on the priority list for you?

scoutt 6y ago
It wasn't a bait. Is just that I cannot connect Intellectual Property issues with social media issues. > Social media is currently poisoning our country What IP has to do with a kid joining extreme right (or left) groups, higher rates of teenager suicides and people believing anything you put in front of them? All these happen because of social media, at least in part, and I do believe there is another kind of problem at the root. But I cannot associate it with IP. That's it.
- bergstromm466 6y ago
  > I do believe there is another kind of problem at the root It's a bit boring when you say you disagree but put forth no alternative argument.
  - scoutt 6y ago
    I wanted to say there is an underlying problem. I don't know what it is, but I cannot see why it has to be IP. I didn't said that I disagree. I did said that I cannot understand the relation between social media problems and intellectual property. This was a chance for you to explain better (I you were willing to). But... nevermind.
    - bergstromm466 6y ago
      > This was a chance for you to explain better I think it is summed up well by this: "According to Bauwens and Franco Iacomella, late capitalism is beset by the twin structural irrationalities of artificial abundance and artificial scarcity: 1. The current political economy is based on a false idea of material abundance. We call it pseudo-abundance. It is based on a commitment to permanent growth, the infinite accumulation of capital and debt-driven dynamics through compound interest. This is unsustainable, of course, because infinite growth is logically and physically impossible in any physically constrained, finite system. 2. The current political economy is based on a false idea of “immaterial scarcity.” It believes that an exaggerated set of intellectual property monopolies – for copyrights, trademarks and patents – should restrain the sharing of scientific, social and economic innovations. Hence the system discourages human cooperation, excludes many people from benefiting from innovation and slows the collective learning of humanity. In an age of grave global challenges, the political economy keeps many practical alternatives sequestered behind private firewalls or unfunded if they cannot generate adequate profits." Source: https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/artificial-abundance-and-artificial-scarcity/2016/02/21 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/artificial-abundance-and-arti... Does that help you understand my argument?

It wasn't a bait. Is just that I cannot connect Intellectual Property issues with social media issues. > Social media is currently poisoning our country What IP has to do with a kid joining extreme right (or left) groups, higher rates of teenager suicides and people believing anything you put in front of them? All these happen because of social media, at least in part, and I do believe there is another kind of problem at the root. But I cannot associate it with IP. That's it.

bergstromm466 6y ago
> I do believe there is another kind of problem at the root It's a bit boring when you say you disagree but put forth no alternative argument.
- scoutt 6y ago
  I wanted to say there is an underlying problem. I don't know what it is, but I cannot see why it has to be IP. I didn't said that I disagree. I did said that I cannot understand the relation between social media problems and intellectual property. This was a chance for you to explain better (I you were willing to). But... nevermind.
  - bergstromm466 6y ago
    > This was a chance for you to explain better I think it is summed up well by this: "According to Bauwens and Franco Iacomella, late capitalism is beset by the twin structural irrationalities of artificial abundance and artificial scarcity: 1. The current political economy is based on a false idea of material abundance. We call it pseudo-abundance. It is based on a commitment to permanent growth, the infinite accumulation of capital and debt-driven dynamics through compound interest. This is unsustainable, of course, because infinite growth is logically and physically impossible in any physically constrained, finite system. 2. The current political economy is based on a false idea of “immaterial scarcity.” It believes that an exaggerated set of intellectual property monopolies – for copyrights, trademarks and patents – should restrain the sharing of scientific, social and economic innovations. Hence the system discourages human cooperation, excludes many people from benefiting from innovation and slows the collective learning of humanity. In an age of grave global challenges, the political economy keeps many practical alternatives sequestered behind private firewalls or unfunded if they cannot generate adequate profits." Source: https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/artificial-abundance-and-artificial-scarcity/2016/02/21 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/artificial-abundance-and-arti... Does that help you understand my argument?