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Yes, so what? It comes back to the other article on HN about YouTube arbitrating truth. Apple should not be able to dictate what goes in my changelog. If I beli
by umvi 6y ago
Yes, so what? It comes back to the other article on HN about YouTube arbitrating truth. Apple should not be able to dictate what goes in my changelog. If I believe it's relevant info for my userbase that I'm working around some Clang compiler bug with some change, I should be able to say it. What kind of dystopian platform is Apple running where police have to look through everything you type about your own product to make sure you haven't written any thoughtcrimes?
- zepto 6y agoApple can’t dictate what goes in your changelog. What we are talking about here is the App Store release notes, on Apple’s site and storefront. They can indeed dictate what goes there. The fact that release notes are even displayed there is because they made a facility for that. You can publish your changelog on your own website.
- saagarjha 6y agoI’m failing to see the distinction you’re drawing between a changelog and release notes?
- zepto 6y agoOne is a business communication made via the App Store, and the other is something you can publish wherever you choose.
- echelon 6y ago> the other is something you can publish wherever you choose. Apple has designed an illegal system, and the DOJ is going to break them up or force them to open wide. The hoops they make people jump through are ridiculous and entirely unfair. They've made people bark like a seal for far too long.
- zepto 6y agoWhether true or not, this is irrelevant to the thread. But worth pointing out that almost all storefronts control what they allow vendors to write there. There is nothing illegal about this, and if this is making people bark like a seal, all retailers and all app stores do it.
- judge2020 6y agoExactly. Walmart very well could tell their suppliers "You can't put a paper within the box saying that the price is $5 more since our logistics software misplayed your deliveries for a whole month" even if it's true.
- saagarjha 6y agoSure, but in spirit I would put the same information in both. Apple's rules on that field are just strange–when a new version of iOS goes into GM out you cannot mention it in your release notes (added support for iOS 14!), which really just makes no sense. It's presented as a place to put your update notes except it's really a strange field where you put something that is similar to your update notes but edited to comply with unwritten guidelines that Apple has created that you can only really know if you read Twitter and see what kinds of things Apple will let you put there.
- zepto 6y agoTrue - I’d generally want to put the same information in both, but there are many companies that don’t. One is part of the retail store experience, and the other is a kind of technical note. It depends a lot on what kind of developer you are and what kind of product you make whether these are the same.
- dkonofalski 6y agoOne is for end users to tell them what's new in this release vs. the last. The other is for technical purposes to document the specific technical changes from one version to the next. They're not the same thing.
- nexuist 6y ago> What kind of dystopian platform is Apple running where police have to look through everything you type about your own product to make sure you haven't written any thoughtcrimes? What do you mean? Do you think it would be fair for Apple to allow developers to serve change logs with racial slurs or political conspiracies to young users? Literal toddlers interact with the App Store on a daily basis. The release notes are not a place to spew bile, so obviously they must be moderated to some degree. We can argue over the acceptability of them trying to blame their failings onto an innocent developer (if that was actually the case), but obviously you should not be allowed to type whatever you want in a text field that gets served to their customers.