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I'd never even consider paying for an IDE I need for work. Why would a company not buy me software that has a direct and immediate impact on my productivity? Hu

I'd never even consider paying for an IDE I need for work. Why would a company not buy me software that has a direct and immediate impact on my productivity? Huge red flag.

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renewiltord 6y ago
All of these things are productivity improvements. And I'm sure any company would buy them if I cared, but $200? It's a rounding error. And it liberates me from any choices they'd make.
- thebean11 6y ago
  IntelliJ Ultimate is $500 for a commercial license I believe (and you need a commercial license to do work for a company over a certain size, even if you pay for it yourself). Sure it's not going to affect my finances either way but: 1. The 2 minutes it takes to file an expense report is a good trade for $200 (I don't make $6,000 an hour at my job) 2. It's the principle; they should pay for it, not me.
  - renewiltord 6y ago
    No, you don't have to do that¹. Where did you get that info? I don't want to argue your personal value calculation and I accept that you feel the way you do, so let's set that part aside. I've been using my IntelliJ licence at multiple jobs on my own and AFAIK if I don't get it reimbursed I don't need a business licence. ¹ https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240855-Can-I-use-my-personal-license-at-work-and-at-home- https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240855-Can-...
    - thebean11 6y ago
      Ah you're right, I stand corrected on the license. I don't see the value calculation as an emotional one, I truly don't see a reason not to fill out the expense report
      - renewiltord 6y ago
        I didn't mean to imply that it was emotional, just that it is your own preference and different from mine. Personal there as relating to your person. Sorry, needed to clarify that, but I really don't want to argue this point with you.
cmckn 6y ago
In the past I’ve been a dev at a company that didn’t understand software development at all; and fighting these battles is exactly why I left. Different strokes for different folks, but it’s great to work somewhere that gives me the tools I need for the job without having to ask, and certainly without having to source and pay for them myself.

I'd never even consider paying for an IDE I need for work. Why would a company not buy me software that has a direct and immediate impact on my productivity? Huge red flag.

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renewiltord 6y ago

All of these things are productivity improvements. And I'm sure any company would buy them if I cared, but $200? It's a rounding error. And it liberates me from any choices they'd make.

thebean11 6y ago
IntelliJ Ultimate is $500 for a commercial license I believe (and you need a commercial license to do work for a company over a certain size, even if you pay for it yourself). Sure it's not going to affect my finances either way but: 1. The 2 minutes it takes to file an expense report is a good trade for $200 (I don't make $6,000 an hour at my job) 2. It's the principle; they should pay for it, not me.
- renewiltord 6y ago
  No, you don't have to do that¹. Where did you get that info? I don't want to argue your personal value calculation and I accept that you feel the way you do, so let's set that part aside. I've been using my IntelliJ licence at multiple jobs on my own and AFAIK if I don't get it reimbursed I don't need a business licence. ¹ https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240855-Can-I-use-my-personal-license-at-work-and-at-home- https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240855-Can-...
  - thebean11 6y ago
    Ah you're right, I stand corrected on the license. I don't see the value calculation as an emotional one, I truly don't see a reason not to fill out the expense report
    - renewiltord 6y ago
      I didn't mean to imply that it was emotional, just that it is your own preference and different from mine. Personal there as relating to your person. Sorry, needed to clarify that, but I really don't want to argue this point with you.

cmckn 6y ago

In the past I’ve been a dev at a company that didn’t understand software development at all; and fighting these battles is exactly why I left. Different strokes for different folks, but it’s great to work somewhere that gives me the tools I need for the job without having to ask, and certainly without having to source and pay for them myself.