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A question for you then: why do you want to open source this project?

by petervandijck 16y ago

norswap 16y ago
The real question, as Cave Johnson would put it is not "why ?", it's "why not ?".
- petervandijck 16y ago
  Because it is a lot of extra work (answer questions, talk on mailing list, write docs, create a website to host it all, ...). If you don't put in the work, I wouldn't even call it open-sourcing, then you're just slapping a license on some code. If you do want to open source it and put in all this work, which you could spend coding instead, then the question becomes what you're hoping to get out of this :) Knowing why also makes it easier to answer your question. As for your questions: the most enjoyable open source projects are the ones that provide useful code. Useful to others, that is. Is your code useful to others (like, say, Wordpress)?
  - adrianwaj 16y ago
    It is a Django site using Pinax and GeoDjango. It is hosted on Linode and Github, the code is documented and a lot of time and energy has been put into it. It has a really nice simple and edgy design. Music/touring/concerts/fan-analytics/ticketing is a cool yet highly competitive area, and I don't want to take the conventional startup route. I'm not sure the conventional startup route will work. I think it could be an interesting way for people to get involved in a startup without the stress.
    - petervandijck 16y ago
      Sorry, I still don't understand. Is it something people will want to install for themselves, wordpress style? Is it something else?
      - adrianwaj 16y ago
        Good question. If it was opened in its entirety then I suppose people could install it for themselves (but I'd prefer not for competitive reasons.) However, it's probably better there be a staging server that anyone can push to, and test on, with final changes then selected for pushing onto the main site, with this ability entrusted to a few people. So, if it were a Q+A site, then I am creating a Quora rather than say a http://www.question2answer.org/ http://www.question2answer.org/. If anyone's interested, it uses https://github.com/typeish/django-deploy https://github.com/typeish/django-deploy Am I just offloading development to other people on their time and dime? - yes, in a sense, but that's not the aim, the aim is to build something that will succeed, and see those that build it be an integral part of that success. You can redirect to the site here: http://hackerbra.in/bop.html http://hackerbra.in/bop.html (note: it is not ready for launch - the database will be filling with venues/artists/tours/shows data, even without any users)
        petervandijck 16y ago
        You want others to help you with your commercial project, for free???
        adrianwaj 16y ago
        it's not commercial, it has commercial possibilities. It's about as commercial as craigslist once was, maybe.
    - sovande 16y ago
      > I think it could be an interesting way for people to get involved in a startup without the stress. I think I see where you're going with this. You want to "open source" part of your project to get help, but you want to retain control of the commercial aspect of the project in case "it has commercial possibilities". This is just infantile and demonstrate that you don't understand how open source works.
      - adrianwaj 16y ago
        It'd be more like Red Hat or SugarCRM. Now take your insults and shove 'em. Correction: even those aren't good analogies because they are self-installed. But open-source and commercial do mix: everyone's in it for a different reason.
        sovande 16y ago
        > Now take your insults and shove 'em. Not only infantile, but rude as well. I predict great success for your open source endeavor, not.
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        adrianwaj 16y ago
        As I said, shove 'em where the sun don't don't shine, hypocrite douchebag.
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A question for you then: why do you want to open source this project?

norswap 16y ago

The real question, as Cave Johnson would put it is not "why ?", it's "why not ?".

petervandijck 16y ago
Because it is a lot of extra work (answer questions, talk on mailing list, write docs, create a website to host it all, ...). If you don't put in the work, I wouldn't even call it open-sourcing, then you're just slapping a license on some code. If you do want to open source it and put in all this work, which you could spend coding instead, then the question becomes what you're hoping to get out of this :) Knowing why also makes it easier to answer your question. As for your questions: the most enjoyable open source projects are the ones that provide useful code. Useful to others, that is. Is your code useful to others (like, say, Wordpress)?
- adrianwaj 16y ago
  It is a Django site using Pinax and GeoDjango. It is hosted on Linode and Github, the code is documented and a lot of time and energy has been put into it. It has a really nice simple and edgy design. Music/touring/concerts/fan-analytics/ticketing is a cool yet highly competitive area, and I don't want to take the conventional startup route. I'm not sure the conventional startup route will work. I think it could be an interesting way for people to get involved in a startup without the stress.
  - petervandijck 16y ago
    Sorry, I still don't understand. Is it something people will want to install for themselves, wordpress style? Is it something else?
    - adrianwaj 16y ago
      Good question. If it was opened in its entirety then I suppose people could install it for themselves (but I'd prefer not for competitive reasons.) However, it's probably better there be a staging server that anyone can push to, and test on, with final changes then selected for pushing onto the main site, with this ability entrusted to a few people. So, if it were a Q+A site, then I am creating a Quora rather than say a http://www.question2answer.org/ http://www.question2answer.org/. If anyone's interested, it uses https://github.com/typeish/django-deploy https://github.com/typeish/django-deploy Am I just offloading development to other people on their time and dime? - yes, in a sense, but that's not the aim, the aim is to build something that will succeed, and see those that build it be an integral part of that success. You can redirect to the site here: http://hackerbra.in/bop.html http://hackerbra.in/bop.html (note: it is not ready for launch - the database will be filling with venues/artists/tours/shows data, even without any users)
      - petervandijck 16y ago
        You want others to help you with your commercial project, for free???
        adrianwaj 16y ago
        it's not commercial, it has commercial possibilities. It's about as commercial as craigslist once was, maybe.
  - sovande 16y ago
    > I think it could be an interesting way for people to get involved in a startup without the stress. I think I see where you're going with this. You want to "open source" part of your project to get help, but you want to retain control of the commercial aspect of the project in case "it has commercial possibilities". This is just infantile and demonstrate that you don't understand how open source works.
    - adrianwaj 16y ago
      It'd be more like Red Hat or SugarCRM. Now take your insults and shove 'em. Correction: even those aren't good analogies because they are self-installed. But open-source and commercial do mix: everyone's in it for a different reason.
      - sovande 16y ago
        > Now take your insults and shove 'em. Not only infantile, but rude as well. I predict great success for your open source endeavor, not.
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        adrianwaj 16y ago
        As I said, shove 'em where the sun don't don't shine, hypocrite douchebag.
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