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We can't discuss human rights in absolute worldwide terms while looking at immigration systems, because there's no universally agreed set of human rights to dis

We can't discuss human rights in absolute worldwide terms while looking at immigration systems, because there's no universally agreed set of human rights to discuss, as far as I know. But we can discuss violations of what it is widely regarded should be universal human rights. Here's a list of some that I consider should be universal human rights, which are often violated by immigration systems: - The right of young children to be with their parents - The right of spouses to be together and start a family - The right to get married - The right to legal due process, including appeals and representation - The right to work for essentials for survival such as food, shelter and medicine - The right to enter private transactions for things like shelter - The right to access the prevailing currency system (basic banking in the modern world) - The right to leave an abusive job, without enduring serious harm caused by the state if you do - The right to leave an abusive relationship, without enduring serious harm caused by the state if you do - The right to stay in the country where you were born, raised and have never known anywhere else - The right to vote in the country where you were born and raised - The right to protection and safety when talking to the police about a crime where you are a victim or witness

carierx1 6y ago
Universally recognized human right? You must be 12 years old.
runarberg 6y ago
> because there's no universally agreed set of human rights to discuss This statement might be technically true in legal terms (I am not a lawyer so I don’t know), but there is the Universal Declaration of Human Rights[1], ratified by all 193 members of the United Nations. That is a good place to start. Additionally the UN has more in depth declarations (e.g. Convention on the Rights of the Child[2]; which my native country of Iceland came within 5 minutes of breaking a month ago but the children were safely hid from the authorities who were going to unjustly deport them). 1: https://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html https://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/ind... 2: https://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CRC.aspx https://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CRC.aspx --- PS. I truly encourage everyone to read the Declaration of Human Rights[1] in their native language. It is such a beautiful read and gives you a sense of shared humanity. It is not that long, and has over 500 translations. In my native language the translation is really clear and easy to follow.
- jlokier 6y ago
  I agree with you, I think it's beautiful too. I'm a strong advocate for universal human rights - and for improving on the set of rights that we agree on. > my native country of Iceland came within 5 minutes of breaking a month ago but the children were safely hid from the authorities who were going to unjustly deport them A fine example answer to "How does the immigration system violate human rights?"

carierx1 6y ago

Universally recognized human right? You must be 12 years old.

runarberg 6y ago

> because there's no universally agreed set of human rights to discuss This statement might be technically true in legal terms (I am not a lawyer so I don’t know), but there is the Universal Declaration of Human Rights[1], ratified by all 193 members of the United Nations. That is a good place to start. Additionally the UN has more in depth declarations (e.g. Convention on the Rights of the Child[2]; which my native country of Iceland came within 5 minutes of breaking a month ago but the children were safely hid from the authorities who were going to unjustly deport them). 1: https://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html https://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/ind... 2: https://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CRC.aspx https://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CRC.aspx --- PS. I truly encourage everyone to read the Declaration of Human Rights[1] in their native language. It is such a beautiful read and gives you a sense of shared humanity. It is not that long, and has over 500 translations. In my native language the translation is really clear and easy to follow.

jlokier 6y ago
I agree with you, I think it's beautiful too. I'm a strong advocate for universal human rights - and for improving on the set of rights that we agree on. > my native country of Iceland came within 5 minutes of breaking a month ago but the children were safely hid from the authorities who were going to unjustly deport them A fine example answer to "How does the immigration system violate human rights?"