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Yes but we must be equally outraged about it. Especially since Americans have more power to change the actions of their own government.

rcMgD2BwE72F 6y ago
The US also have far more influence on the rest of the world than China (at least for now). As a French, many things happening in the US can have big consequences on my day-to-day life: US military operations directly increases risk of terrorist attacks in Paris (because of NATO or more indirectly), big price moves on the NYSE influence market sentiment in all Western countries, Hollywood movies and Netflix releases change our culture continuously, Google and Facebook privacy changes hits us too, Uber price policy, BLM events actually change perception of police violence in my city within a week, US patent on new cancer drugs, etc. I can't find a single occurrence of a China-centric event that had repercussion on me, my friends or family.
Subsentient 6y ago
No, we do not, because the crimes of the US are not equally severe and/or are historic and not actively occurring. There's a difference between systemic racism and state-sanctioned cultural genocide signed off on by the dictator himself.
- joelbluminator 6y ago
  Who determines they are not equally severe? How can we reliably estimate and compare the damage done in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan to what's happening in China?
  - Subsentient 6y ago
    There were plenty of disastrous wars, but clearly the US did not intend to commit genocide, and I very much doubt it did, in any war. The same cannot be said for China. Of course, there's the historic case of the native Americans, but again, that's not actively occurring.
    - joelbluminator 6y ago
      Well, everbody thinks they're doing the right thing. U.S was saving Vietnam from communism and later was saving the world from Saddam's WMD or Afghanistans taliban. China is saving their country from civil disintegration and helps create a uniform culture for the greater good. See what I did there?
      - Synaesthesia 6y ago
        The Japanese in WW2 were also trying to create an "earthly paradise" in South East Asia.
        joelbluminator 6y ago
        True. You can't take that away from the U.S, they helped save the free world (together with the allies and Russia). Things are complex.
    - newen 6y ago
      Right, the US just stumbles into war and genocide like an innocent child while China intends to commit genocide because they are evil etc. etc. It’s a great narrative.
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rcMgD2BwE72F 6y ago

The US also have far more influence on the rest of the world than China (at least for now). As a French, many things happening in the US can have big consequences on my day-to-day life: US military operations directly increases risk of terrorist attacks in Paris (because of NATO or more indirectly), big price moves on the NYSE influence market sentiment in all Western countries, Hollywood movies and Netflix releases change our culture continuously, Google and Facebook privacy changes hits us too, Uber price policy, BLM events actually change perception of police violence in my city within a week, US patent on new cancer drugs, etc. I can't find a single occurrence of a China-centric event that had repercussion on me, my friends or family.

Subsentient 6y ago

No, we do not, because the crimes of the US are not equally severe and/or are historic and not actively occurring. There's a difference between systemic racism and state-sanctioned cultural genocide signed off on by the dictator himself.

joelbluminator 6y ago
Who determines they are not equally severe? How can we reliably estimate and compare the damage done in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan to what's happening in China?
- Subsentient 6y ago
  There were plenty of disastrous wars, but clearly the US did not intend to commit genocide, and I very much doubt it did, in any war. The same cannot be said for China. Of course, there's the historic case of the native Americans, but again, that's not actively occurring.
  - joelbluminator 6y ago
    Well, everbody thinks they're doing the right thing. U.S was saving Vietnam from communism and later was saving the world from Saddam's WMD or Afghanistans taliban. China is saving their country from civil disintegration and helps create a uniform culture for the greater good. See what I did there?
    - Synaesthesia 6y ago
      The Japanese in WW2 were also trying to create an "earthly paradise" in South East Asia.
      - joelbluminator 6y ago
        True. You can't take that away from the U.S, they helped save the free world (together with the allies and Russia). Things are complex.
  - newen 6y ago
    Right, the US just stumbles into war and genocide like an innocent child while China intends to commit genocide because they are evil etc. etc. It’s a great narrative.

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