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Finally there is a possibility to shop efficiently in a mall or grocery store: Convert the indoor map to OpenStreetMap, import the map to OSRM (http://project-

Finally there is a possibility to shop efficiently in a mall or grocery store: Convert the indoor map to OpenStreetMap, import the map to OSRM (http://project-osrm.org http://project-osrm.org) to make travel time calculations (for the time to walk between shops/isles), export travel-time matrix from OSRM and import this matrix to VROOM (https://github.com/VROOM-Project/vroom https://github.com/VROOM-Project/vroom) for fleet optimization calculations (Me, wife and kids).

thdrdt 6y ago
:) this is great (I kind of hate shopping). But on a more serious note: I work a lot with this kind of software but the biggest problem is reliable map data. It doesn't matter how fast your matrix is generated and how good your fleet/order optimization is, when a truck is routed in the wrong direction of a one way street because the map data was not correct, you might as well draw a route on a map yourself.
- Fnoord 6y ago
  > I kind of hate shopping Have you considered ordering online and let them deliver it at your doorstep?
comeonseriously 6y ago
If you know the store already: Use a list. Organize the list by row and items on row based on if you're moving to the back of the store vs to the front. Travel the path, making sure not to go down isles you don't need to, run over anyone who puts their cart in the middle of the isle. Fast enough.
- arkitaip 6y ago
  I was thinking that this sounds excessive but them I remembered that I recently relented and reinstalled Google Keep to make my grocery store shopping less chaotic by ordering items according to store sections. Waking past the same isle half a dozen times because you can't locate items is just too frustrating.
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- tasogare 6y ago
  No no, this requires an app! More specifically an SaaS app that come with a monthly plan, yet crowd source to unpaid user the data input. My startup is currently rising series A so we can expand fast and took this market that will have an incredible impact on people’s life.
  - gorkish 6y ago
    Oh boy I can hardly wait. I hope it costs less than a cup of coffee per day!
    - 8note 6y ago
      The monetization is by working with the stores to route you through specific isles
freyfogle 6y ago
You may enjoy this start-up working on this problem, the demo is impressive. https://www.dentreality.com https://www.dentreality.com
- TiredGuy 6y ago
  Another startup in this space is Aisle411: http://aisle411.com/ http://aisle411.com/
the_arun 6y ago
Point is store owners want you to wander, discover & buy things you hadn't planned to purchase when you entered the shop.
AndrewHart 6y ago
I run an AR startup called Dent Reality - Apple lists us in their Indoor Maps program docs. We've built on IMDF to solve this for grocery stores, and provide shopping list navigation with maps and AR. 60 second demo video here: https://twitter.com/AndrewProjDent/status/1311714565655273473 https://twitter.com/AndrewProjDent/status/131171456565527347...
- ethbr0 6y ago
  Out of curiosity, do grocery stores use planograms [0], or more adhoc or static stocking methods? My retail exposure is limited, and includes neither grocery nor clothing experience. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planogram https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planogram

thdrdt 6y ago

:) this is great (I kind of hate shopping). But on a more serious note: I work a lot with this kind of software but the biggest problem is reliable map data. It doesn't matter how fast your matrix is generated and how good your fleet/order optimization is, when a truck is routed in the wrong direction of a one way street because the map data was not correct, you might as well draw a route on a map yourself.

Fnoord 6y ago
> I kind of hate shopping Have you considered ordering online and let them deliver it at your doorstep?

comeonseriously 6y ago

If you know the store already: Use a list. Organize the list by row and items on row based on if you're moving to the back of the store vs to the front. Travel the path, making sure not to go down isles you don't need to, run over anyone who puts their cart in the middle of the isle. Fast enough.

arkitaip 6y ago
I was thinking that this sounds excessive but them I remembered that I recently relented and reinstalled Google Keep to make my grocery store shopping less chaotic by ordering items according to store sections. Waking past the same isle half a dozen times because you can't locate items is just too frustrating.
- deleted 6y ago
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tasogare 6y ago
No no, this requires an app! More specifically an SaaS app that come with a monthly plan, yet crowd source to unpaid user the data input. My startup is currently rising series A so we can expand fast and took this market that will have an incredible impact on people’s life.
- gorkish 6y ago
  Oh boy I can hardly wait. I hope it costs less than a cup of coffee per day!
  - 8note 6y ago
    The monetization is by working with the stores to route you through specific isles

freyfogle 6y ago

You may enjoy this start-up working on this problem, the demo is impressive. https://www.dentreality.com https://www.dentreality.com

TiredGuy 6y ago
Another startup in this space is Aisle411: http://aisle411.com/ http://aisle411.com/

the_arun 6y ago

Point is store owners want you to wander, discover & buy things you hadn't planned to purchase when you entered the shop.

AndrewHart 6y ago

I run an AR startup called Dent Reality - Apple lists us in their Indoor Maps program docs. We've built on IMDF to solve this for grocery stores, and provide shopping list navigation with maps and AR. 60 second demo video here: https://twitter.com/AndrewProjDent/status/1311714565655273473 https://twitter.com/AndrewProjDent/status/131171456565527347...

ethbr0 6y ago
Out of curiosity, do grocery stores use planograms [0], or more adhoc or static stocking methods? My retail exposure is limited, and includes neither grocery nor clothing experience. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planogram https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planogram