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> Social media is currently poisoning our country Does this really come close to diagnosing the root problem? I am frustrated when I see this argument. ”Intel

> Social media is currently poisoning our country Does this really come close to diagnosing the root problem? I am frustrated when I see this argument. ”Intellectual property is the oil of the 21 century. Look at the richest men a hundred years ago; they all made their money extracting natural resources or moving them around. All today's richest men have made their money out of intellectual property.” — Mark Getty The root problem is that the Intellectual Monopoly system destroys the potential for democratic use and understanding of protocols - as well as everything else. Intellectual Monopoly means we are kept stupid because there are gatekeepers - usually people belonging to families with inherited wealth. The idea of the ‘Intellectual Property system’ is the newest means of production, whose function is to enclose and monopolize ideas, which should in fact belong to all children of the world. Especially when digital breaks the rules of economic theories, with it’s near-zero marginal cost of reproduction. So the modern Bougie both 1) parasitically extracts economic rents for something that has been made artificially scarce in the first place, as well as 2) unorganically stemming the rate of innovation - setting a limit on deeper cooperation and coherence/alignment, and harmony. But this reality is obscured by the cultural myths of Magical Voluntarism, Meritocracy and more. We are gaslighting people by telling them they have ‘mental health issues”, when in fact the system has evolved to put a limit on their learning and growth, and which sucks them dry. We need to get rid of closed corporate supply chains and move to Sensorica-type Open Value Networks that use the Resource Event Agent (REA) accounting system. There’s people working on implementing this using Holochain’s distributed data-integrity engine. In using such a system (compared to an internal corporate network), we transparently measure the actual material scarcity of the wonderful resources our Mother Earth provides. And then we can both 1) democratically decide who gets to use which resources (and where, when, how and why, etc.), and 2) we don’t have to use the Intellectual Monopoly system to pretend that having a monopoly is what is needed for successful innovation. What this leads to is a symphony of scalar gift economies. We owe it to ourselves and our children.

scoutt 6y ago
While I agree that social media is not the root problem, I cannot grasp why a disquisition about Intellectual Property could help us to understand what is going on.
- bergstromm466 6y ago
  Ok I'll take the bait. What do you see? What's high(er) on the priority list for you?
  - scoutt 6y ago
    It wasn't a bait. Is just that I cannot connect Intellectual Property issues with social media issues. > Social media is currently poisoning our country What IP has to do with a kid joining extreme right (or left) groups, higher rates of teenager suicides and people believing anything you put in front of them? All these happen because of social media, at least in part, and I do believe there is another kind of problem at the root. But I cannot associate it with IP. That's it.
    - bergstromm466 6y ago
      > I do believe there is another kind of problem at the root It's a bit boring when you say you disagree but put forth no alternative argument.
      - scoutt 6y ago
        I wanted to say there is an underlying problem. I don't know what it is, but I cannot see why it has to be IP. I didn't said that I disagree. I did said that I cannot understand the relation between social media problems and intellectual property. This was a chance for you to explain better (I you were willing to). But... nevermind.
        bergstromm466 6y ago
        > This was a chance for you to explain better I think it is summed up well by this: "According to Bauwens and Franco Iacomella, late capitalism is beset by the twin structural irrationalities of artificial abundance and artificial scarcity: 1. The current political economy is based on a false idea of material abundance. We call it pseudo-abundance. It is based on a commitment to permanent growth, the infinite accumulation of capital and debt-driven dynamics through compound interest. This is unsustainable, of course, because infinite growth is logically and physically impossible in any physically constrained, finite system. 2. The current political economy is based on a false idea of “immaterial scarcity.” It believes that an exaggerated set of intellectual property monopolies – for copyrights, trademarks and patents – should restrain the sharing of scientific, social and economic innovations. Hence the system discourages human cooperation, excludes many people from benefiting from innovation and slows the collective learning of humanity. In an age of grave global challenges, the political economy keeps many practical alternatives sequestered behind private firewalls or unfunded if they cannot generate adequate profits." Source: https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/artificial-abundance-and-artificial-scarcity/2016/02/21 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/artificial-abundance-and-arti... Does that help you understand my argument?

scoutt 6y ago

While I agree that social media is not the root problem, I cannot grasp why a disquisition about Intellectual Property could help us to understand what is going on.

bergstromm466 6y ago
Ok I'll take the bait. What do you see? What's high(er) on the priority list for you?
- scoutt 6y ago
  It wasn't a bait. Is just that I cannot connect Intellectual Property issues with social media issues. > Social media is currently poisoning our country What IP has to do with a kid joining extreme right (or left) groups, higher rates of teenager suicides and people believing anything you put in front of them? All these happen because of social media, at least in part, and I do believe there is another kind of problem at the root. But I cannot associate it with IP. That's it.
  - bergstromm466 6y ago
    > I do believe there is another kind of problem at the root It's a bit boring when you say you disagree but put forth no alternative argument.
    - scoutt 6y ago
      I wanted to say there is an underlying problem. I don't know what it is, but I cannot see why it has to be IP. I didn't said that I disagree. I did said that I cannot understand the relation between social media problems and intellectual property. This was a chance for you to explain better (I you were willing to). But... nevermind.
      - bergstromm466 6y ago
        > This was a chance for you to explain better I think it is summed up well by this: "According to Bauwens and Franco Iacomella, late capitalism is beset by the twin structural irrationalities of artificial abundance and artificial scarcity: 1. The current political economy is based on a false idea of material abundance. We call it pseudo-abundance. It is based on a commitment to permanent growth, the infinite accumulation of capital and debt-driven dynamics through compound interest. This is unsustainable, of course, because infinite growth is logically and physically impossible in any physically constrained, finite system. 2. The current political economy is based on a false idea of “immaterial scarcity.” It believes that an exaggerated set of intellectual property monopolies – for copyrights, trademarks and patents – should restrain the sharing of scientific, social and economic innovations. Hence the system discourages human cooperation, excludes many people from benefiting from innovation and slows the collective learning of humanity. In an age of grave global challenges, the political economy keeps many practical alternatives sequestered behind private firewalls or unfunded if they cannot generate adequate profits." Source: https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/artificial-abundance-and-artificial-scarcity/2016/02/21 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/artificial-abundance-and-arti... Does that help you understand my argument?