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It happened in many countries around the world at all levels of government. History has shown that blindly following uber global bodies like the WHO can have a

by wolco2 6y ago

It happened in many countries around the world at all levels of government. History has shown that blindly following uber global bodies like the WHO can have a massive negative outcomes even with best intentions.

hef19898 6y ago
The first global body was the League of Nations, if you exclude entities like the British Empire from the perspective of their colonies. When exactly did following the UN or any other body result in desaster?
- wolco2 6y ago
  The topic was masks. So following that advice caused many lives lost. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/why-world-health-organization-failed/610063/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/why-world... UN specifically Israeli occupation (1948-Now) Kashmir dispute (1948-Now) Cambodia violence (1975-1979) Somali civil war (1991-Now) Rwandan civil war (1994) Srebrenica Massacre (1995) Darfur conflict in Sudan (2003-Now) Iraq invasion (2003-2011) Rohingya Crisis, Myanmar (2017-Now)
  - hef19898 6y ago
    And all of that was caused directly by the UN? Or was more complicated than that, and the UN could do much as the veto powers blocked or delayed things? I'd say it is rather the latter. There were UN troops in Srebrenica, and their failure is a well covered topic. There are multiple resolutions against Israel, the first from the Suez crisis. Most just get ignored, not the least due to US vetos. The Iraq invasion was a purely US thing that had nothing to do with the UN, some NATO members supported it but not all. There is a difference between causing disaster, which the UN didn't, and failing to prevent it, which the UN does. Expecting perfect results from one side and no results at all, or close to jone, from the other is just disengnious.
    - wolco2 6y ago
      The UN is made up members. Things like US vetos are part of the process and must be included. WHO has a global outlook and you have a person story. Those two conflict more often than not. Telling you masks don't work and then telling you they always worked and you must wear one is a big messaging error that has cost many lives. And the reasons behind are political. Trust with me has been broken. If it's important I'll include a link with detailed context for each and throw in a few more examples for you. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.trtworld.com/americas/twelve-times-the-un-has-failed-the-world-21666/amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.trtworld.com/americas/twelv...

by wolco2 6y ago

hef19898 6y ago

The first global body was the League of Nations, if you exclude entities like the British Empire from the perspective of their colonies. When exactly did following the UN or any other body result in desaster?

wolco2 6y ago
The topic was masks. So following that advice caused many lives lost. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/why-world-health-organization-failed/610063/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/why-world... UN specifically Israeli occupation (1948-Now) Kashmir dispute (1948-Now) Cambodia violence (1975-1979) Somali civil war (1991-Now) Rwandan civil war (1994) Srebrenica Massacre (1995) Darfur conflict in Sudan (2003-Now) Iraq invasion (2003-2011) Rohingya Crisis, Myanmar (2017-Now)
- hef19898 6y ago
  And all of that was caused directly by the UN? Or was more complicated than that, and the UN could do much as the veto powers blocked or delayed things? I'd say it is rather the latter. There were UN troops in Srebrenica, and their failure is a well covered topic. There are multiple resolutions against Israel, the first from the Suez crisis. Most just get ignored, not the least due to US vetos. The Iraq invasion was a purely US thing that had nothing to do with the UN, some NATO members supported it but not all. There is a difference between causing disaster, which the UN didn't, and failing to prevent it, which the UN does. Expecting perfect results from one side and no results at all, or close to jone, from the other is just disengnious.
  - wolco2 6y ago
    The UN is made up members. Things like US vetos are part of the process and must be included. WHO has a global outlook and you have a person story. Those two conflict more often than not. Telling you masks don't work and then telling you they always worked and you must wear one is a big messaging error that has cost many lives. And the reasons behind are political. Trust with me has been broken. If it's important I'll include a link with detailed context for each and throw in a few more examples for you. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.trtworld.com/americas/twelve-times-the-un-has-failed-the-world-21666/amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.trtworld.com/americas/twelv...