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> The whole point is that on Android, you can opt out. The principle of Privacy isn't the act of giving people options (Facebook uses this excuse all the time

> The whole point is that on Android, you can opt out. The principle of Privacy isn't the act of giving people options (Facebook uses this excuse all the time - "but users had the option! not our fault!"). The principle is designing privacy into the default way people use things. At an ecosystem level the privacy awareness level and incentive structure is clear between the big companies. Nitpicking and hyperbole isn't helping make your point like you think it is. Do you think my mom knows how to opt out of something like that on Android or if that's even possible? No. But she's IS going to be using Apple Maps by default and have a heightened level of privacy all the same. Privacy is taking care of your entire customer base and making intelligent default considerations. Not giving nerds a pane of options.

lern_too_spel 6y ago
> The principle is designing privacy into the default way people use things. And Android puts it right there in device setup, allowing them tonset up their privacy preferences correctly the way people use things. > Do you think my mom knows how to opt out of something like that on Android or if that's even possible? If she uses Android, she would. It asks her right there in setup. Do you think your mom knows that Apple tracks every location she has ever been, and she can't make them stop? Even you don't know it, and you're arguably tech literate. The correct way to handle privacy is giving users the choice between usability and privacy. Android does this correctly. Google's Android devices default to usable, which gives you services that are actually useful unlike the iOS apps that are missing functionality, and allows the user to install apps that are actually private and set them as default if they prefer. Other Android distributions default to the other side. iOS is worse both for people who value functionality and for people who value privacy because it gives you defaults that are neither private nor usable that you cannot change.

lern_too_spel 6y ago

> The principle is designing privacy into the default way people use things. And Android puts it right there in device setup, allowing them tonset up their privacy preferences correctly the way people use things. > Do you think my mom knows how to opt out of something like that on Android or if that's even possible? If she uses Android, she would. It asks her right there in setup. Do you think your mom knows that Apple tracks every location she has ever been, and she can't make them stop? Even you don't know it, and you're arguably tech literate. The correct way to handle privacy is giving users the choice between usability and privacy. Android does this correctly. Google's Android devices default to usable, which gives you services that are actually useful unlike the iOS apps that are missing functionality, and allows the user to install apps that are actually private and set them as default if they prefer. Other Android distributions default to the other side. iOS is worse both for people who value functionality and for people who value privacy because it gives you defaults that are neither private nor usable that you cannot change.