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My primary concern is about whether the information I'm looking at is factual or not. If Russia had proof of corruption on the candidate they did not excessive

by iaw 6y ago

My primary concern is about whether the information I'm looking at is factual or not. If Russia had proof of corruption on the candidate they did not excessively favor then I would be interested. When historic propagandists have "proof" I need corroboration otherwise I'm being controlled by the propaganda as it was intended. Remember Benghazi? How confident everyone was, for years? Nothing came from it because nothing was there. The people that were talking about Benghazi were only people that benefited from it politically. Remember Al Franken? Remember when people that didn't benefit from it politically agreed he should step down after his behavior?

artificialLimbs 6y ago
"Nothing came from it" Uh, what? A U.S. embassy was actively under attack and our "leaders" said "No thanks!" to sending help. How is that not a scandal?
- iaw 6y ago
  There were ten investigations and your version of events are not accurate according to all of them. Including the ones led by Republicans. [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack#Investigations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack#Investiga...
  - aksss 6y ago
    Not finding anyone they can indict is not the same as “no scandal”. You and I knew when they were trying to blame the fiasco on a YouTube video and trotted the poor director out in a hooded perp walk on tv that it was complete. utter. BS., and then we watched Rice run around talking about it on talk shows trying to shamelessly prop up this narrative. That itself is a scandal. When you start asking more critical questions about why a government does crap like that you’ll find it’s scandals all the way down. The best you can say from the Benghazi debacle is that we had/have a bunch of nincompoops running the show. _That’s_ a scandal. It only gets worse when you attempt to defend their qualifications. Don’t get me started on Libya as a whole - it’s executors only years earlier still criticizing the lack of an exit plan for Iraq.

by iaw 6y ago

artificialLimbs 6y ago

"Nothing came from it" Uh, what? A U.S. embassy was actively under attack and our "leaders" said "No thanks!" to sending help. How is that not a scandal?

iaw 6y ago
There were ten investigations and your version of events are not accurate according to all of them. Including the ones led by Republicans. [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack#Investigations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack#Investiga...
- aksss 6y ago
  Not finding anyone they can indict is not the same as “no scandal”. You and I knew when they were trying to blame the fiasco on a YouTube video and trotted the poor director out in a hooded perp walk on tv that it was complete. utter. BS., and then we watched Rice run around talking about it on talk shows trying to shamelessly prop up this narrative. That itself is a scandal. When you start asking more critical questions about why a government does crap like that you’ll find it’s scandals all the way down. The best you can say from the Benghazi debacle is that we had/have a bunch of nincompoops running the show. _That’s_ a scandal. It only gets worse when you attempt to defend their qualifications. Don’t get me started on Libya as a whole - it’s executors only years earlier still criticizing the lack of an exit plan for Iraq.