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I'm a first generation immigrant who moved to North America because I didn't like living "like the rest of the world". Mind you, most of the world lives in pov

I'm a first generation immigrant who moved to North America because I didn't like living "like the rest of the world". Mind you, most of the world lives in poverty fueled by endless tribal fights. Shia-vs-Sunni Muslims, Mexican drug cartels, endless tribal wars in Africa. Sponsored by the local "top ladder" successfully running the "divide and conquer" strategy. I don't see anything good in bringing that standard of living to the 1st World countries. And, mind you, China is completely unaffected by the processes tearing the U.S. apart. They are more than ready to take the place, and also they don't give a slightest damn about human rights, freedom of association and many other Western virtues. Read about Uighur camps if you have any doubts. Be careful for what you wish for.

boomboomsubban 6y ago
Every example of the "divide and conquer" strategy you mention has the US at least assisting the "top ladder." Mexican drug cartels only exist because of America's "War on Drugs," and beyond that you run into people like Pablo Escobar deliberations propped up by the US to further their interests. >And, mind you, China is completely unaffected by the processes tearing the U.S. apart Isn't this the exact same " divide and conquer " strategy you just mentions? If we don't continue supporting our tribe, ignoring it's many faults, that other tribe will make things much worse.
- john_moscow 6y ago
  Europe has been living like this for centuries during Medieval times. Inquisition, witch hunts, heretic burning, wars, plague... African tribes have been at war with each other for as long as we know them. It's a human fallacy and not some evil plan hatched by U.S. billionaires. Besides, the billionaires will be fine, it's the middle class that will find themselves living in ghettos.
  - boomboomsubban 6y ago
    >It's a human fallacy and not some evil plan hatched by U.S. billionaires Right, US billionaires would never develop an evil plan like exploit violence to make money. Those actions are just African nature. If China were to gain more power though, obviously they would steal the middle classes' wealth and force them into poverty.

boomboomsubban 6y ago

Every example of the "divide and conquer" strategy you mention has the US at least assisting the "top ladder." Mexican drug cartels only exist because of America's "War on Drugs," and beyond that you run into people like Pablo Escobar deliberations propped up by the US to further their interests. >And, mind you, China is completely unaffected by the processes tearing the U.S. apart Isn't this the exact same " divide and conquer " strategy you just mentions? If we don't continue supporting our tribe, ignoring it's many faults, that other tribe will make things much worse.

john_moscow 6y ago
Europe has been living like this for centuries during Medieval times. Inquisition, witch hunts, heretic burning, wars, plague... African tribes have been at war with each other for as long as we know them. It's a human fallacy and not some evil plan hatched by U.S. billionaires. Besides, the billionaires will be fine, it's the middle class that will find themselves living in ghettos.
- boomboomsubban 6y ago
  >It's a human fallacy and not some evil plan hatched by U.S. billionaires Right, US billionaires would never develop an evil plan like exploit violence to make money. Those actions are just African nature. If China were to gain more power though, obviously they would steal the middle classes' wealth and force them into poverty.