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Another company to watch here is Tailscale, which is Wireguard-based: https://tailscale.com/ https://tailscale.com/ (disclosure: small Tailscale investor)

• tonymet 6y ago
  how does one go about that?
• btgeekboy 6y ago
  I like the people behind Tailscale, but I’ve yet to figure out how they’re different than ZeroTier.
  • ptman 6y ago
    Based on hearsay: * wireguard (faster) * easier * more stable
  • TheFlyingFish 6y ago
    I've tried both. I ended up going with Tailscale because: - Better throughput overall. - better NAT holepunching. E.g. ZeroTier gives up entirely with "symmetric NAT" where each outbound connection gets a random source port, but Tailscale has a few extra tricks that it can try (including opening a whole bunch of outbound connections, trying ports at random, and hoping the birthday paradox will kick in, which I think is pretty cool.) - But most of all, Tailscale didn't suffer from weird intermittent throughput/latency issues between different cloud providers the way that ZeroTier did. Sometimes my machines could talk to each other pretty fast, other times it was clamped down to ~10 MB/s for no apparent reason. Sometimes it only showed up in one direction, sometimes both. I gave up on trying to troubleshoot it when I discovered Tailscale. That said, I still like ZeroTier a lot and think it's a great project. It also provides a whole LAN layer, with stuff like actual broadcast traffic, for which Tailscale has no equivalent.