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Absolutely this can be trivially verified and needs to be. Release the emails if they're real so they can be verified. But also, isn't it the same thing with Tr

by dsaavy 6y ago

Absolutely this can be trivially verified and needs to be. Release the emails if they're real so they can be verified. But also, isn't it the same thing with Trump's tax returns? All I've found so far is that the New York Times obtained copies, but they haven't actually released them to the public to be verified. If anyone can find the actual copies I'd like to see. We need to take all of the press releases about "leaks" with a grain of salt, because I keep seeing "leaks" without actual content or verification. It's bullshit and why places that provide the actual contents of leaks are so important. Yes, certain publications are more trustworthy than others historically, but that doesn't mean they get an indefinite pass on providing verified information.

dsaavy 6y ago
One thing that can be verified (as at least a unique release) after looking into the NY Post article more are the pictures they released. When I reverse image search them on Google and tineye, there are no other matches. This doesn't mean that they are necessarily real (they'd have to be verified as not being fakes), but they are certainly newly released. A couple searches: https://tineye.com/search/85ed99ec3e5397597a1100ce7d54c0bf9924e61d?sort=score&order=desc&page=1 https://tineye.com/search/85ed99ec3e5397597a1100ce7d54c0bf99... https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZiu3ByKtFe0xCIg4gzZo4VdZR_1l7MtW6UzawGw3zXr15z7beZ9Towpz8tJqAqAZtMEbX9tWmG8pIQi7zzkdfHO4NkxXK9Nlq30hb0ycJTAnSuaEB8_1g0xnschwkGoRbUVW3FFPiCr2Nf3JftC_1UuNSnFxKhsiMtK58l_1zkIAN4l_162Q96nGYv983C77yR3I5k1ShWqFeEW_1xuDV3KDwly4o6ll042Xrns6v_1K_1D1P35U6Xbz90wPP19GhG9xD_1NFjHGQk3WMtPdMZdQwOkHl2u1NG6bjY2I-ZmYs08gaW5mYWxvloN_1LpetN11b4tOFSCEGfnOzOOzs6z3rg2FmE-IIYr8MAIg&hl=en https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZiu3ByKtFe0xCIg4gz... (The Google one weirdly searches for fun when entering this URL)
- icameron 6y ago
  The political machine is more sophisticated than using a public image. If anything it looks like an iCloud hack. Last week was a top HN article about finding an XSS vulnerability in iCloud. Not unreasonable to assume Biden’s crackhead sons iCloud was owned by operatives. Especially since the subject is a main topic of Trumps impeachment.
  - zaroth 6y ago
    The NY Post story allegedly includes a picture of an FBI subpoena for the laptop in question.
    - nullc 6y ago
      I keep expecting to see a FBI response. "That subpoena never existed" or "We issued it and didn't find anything credible to forward to the DOJ" or "We don't comment on ongoing cases." ... I'm not sure what silence means.
      - zaroth 6y ago
        The FBI referred questions about its seizure of the laptop and hard drive to the Delaware US Attorney’s Office, where a spokesperson said, “My office can neither confirm nor deny the existence of an investigation.”
aksss 6y ago
I think the work of Greenwald, Mate, Taibbi and others illustrating how the media just become pawns of the intelligence community is the right way to regard many of the developments, bombshells, and similar media stories that we’ve seen for decades.

by dsaavy 6y ago

dsaavy 6y ago

One thing that can be verified (as at least a unique release) after looking into the NY Post article more are the pictures they released. When I reverse image search them on Google and tineye, there are no other matches. This doesn't mean that they are necessarily real (they'd have to be verified as not being fakes), but they are certainly newly released. A couple searches: https://tineye.com/search/85ed99ec3e5397597a1100ce7d54c0bf9924e61d?sort=score&order=desc&page=1 https://tineye.com/search/85ed99ec3e5397597a1100ce7d54c0bf99... https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZiu3ByKtFe0xCIg4gzZo4VdZR_1l7MtW6UzawGw3zXr15z7beZ9Towpz8tJqAqAZtMEbX9tWmG8pIQi7zzkdfHO4NkxXK9Nlq30hb0ycJTAnSuaEB8_1g0xnschwkGoRbUVW3FFPiCr2Nf3JftC_1UuNSnFxKhsiMtK58l_1zkIAN4l_162Q96nGYv983C77yR3I5k1ShWqFeEW_1xuDV3KDwly4o6ll042Xrns6v_1K_1D1P35U6Xbz90wPP19GhG9xD_1NFjHGQk3WMtPdMZdQwOkHl2u1NG6bjY2I-ZmYs08gaW5mYWxvloN_1LpetN11b4tOFSCEGfnOzOOzs6z3rg2FmE-IIYr8MAIg&hl=en https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZiu3ByKtFe0xCIg4gz... (The Google one weirdly searches for fun when entering this URL)

icameron 6y ago
The political machine is more sophisticated than using a public image. If anything it looks like an iCloud hack. Last week was a top HN article about finding an XSS vulnerability in iCloud. Not unreasonable to assume Biden’s crackhead sons iCloud was owned by operatives. Especially since the subject is a main topic of Trumps impeachment.
- zaroth 6y ago
  The NY Post story allegedly includes a picture of an FBI subpoena for the laptop in question.
  - nullc 6y ago
    I keep expecting to see a FBI response. "That subpoena never existed" or "We issued it and didn't find anything credible to forward to the DOJ" or "We don't comment on ongoing cases." ... I'm not sure what silence means.
    - zaroth 6y ago
      The FBI referred questions about its seizure of the laptop and hard drive to the Delaware US Attorney’s Office, where a spokesperson said, “My office can neither confirm nor deny the existence of an investigation.”

aksss 6y ago

I think the work of Greenwald, Mate, Taibbi and others illustrating how the media just become pawns of the intelligence community is the right way to regard many of the developments, bombshells, and similar media stories that we’ve seen for decades.