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Most of thee existing Apple charging cubes are not USB-C. The cable included with the new phones is USB-C -> Lightning. So, the cable doesn't work with most e

Most of thee existing Apple charging cubes are not USB-C. The cable included with the new phones is USB-C -> Lightning. So, the cable doesn't work with most existing chargers (unless you happen to also own an iPad Pro).

TwoBit 6y ago
Yeah but the five other cables/chargers in their drawer do work.
- alistairSH 6y ago
  Then why include the cable? Save a few more whales and leave it out as well. If I were king... the phone would be sold “bare”, but for $30 less. If somebody needs a charger or cable, they can use that $30 to buy one. Instead, Apple remove the charger, includes a cable not compatible with most iPhone owner’s existing chargers, increased the price $30, and tell me it’s to save the planet? GTFO. (Really, I’m not nearly as annoyed as I probably sound, I just hate the inconsistency)
gnicholas 6y ago
This is true and super annoying that they're doing it this way. However, it's not just iPad Pros that have compatible chargers. Anyone with a MacBook from the last several years (four?) can charge either via the computer or the wall plug (if they want to charge faster). Some people also have inductive chargers that they use, though this is probably a minority. I won't be getting one of these phones, and I think the VZW/AT&T giveaway is garbage. But I don't mind not having another power brick for my next phone. I already have plenty of lightning cables sitting around and ways to plug them in.
theshrike79 6y ago
The phone will still charge perfectly well with any lightning cable.
pwinnski 6y ago
Right. I have a pile of existing charges and cables, no problem. The new free included cable will let me charge my new phone* from my MacBook, something I currently cannot do! * I don't actually plan to buy a new phone, but hypothetically.
- ballenf 6y ago
  Just based on MacBook vs. iPhone sales numbers, Apple sells 40 iPhones for every laptop. Most iPhone owners don't have an Apple laptop. Numbers from 2018: 217M iPhones, 5M laptops: https://www.statista.com/topics/847/apple/ https://www.statista.com/topics/847/apple/
  - stouset 6y ago
    Most people hold onto their laptops for longer than they go between phone upgrades. And many (most? all?) laptop manufactures have USB-C ports on their devices these days, all of which can be used to charge your phone.

TwoBit 6y ago

Yeah but the five other cables/chargers in their drawer do work.

alistairSH 6y ago
Then why include the cable? Save a few more whales and leave it out as well. If I were king... the phone would be sold “bare”, but for $30 less. If somebody needs a charger or cable, they can use that $30 to buy one. Instead, Apple remove the charger, includes a cable not compatible with most iPhone owner’s existing chargers, increased the price $30, and tell me it’s to save the planet? GTFO. (Really, I’m not nearly as annoyed as I probably sound, I just hate the inconsistency)

gnicholas 6y ago

This is true and super annoying that they're doing it this way. However, it's not just iPad Pros that have compatible chargers. Anyone with a MacBook from the last several years (four?) can charge either via the computer or the wall plug (if they want to charge faster). Some people also have inductive chargers that they use, though this is probably a minority. I won't be getting one of these phones, and I think the VZW/AT&T giveaway is garbage. But I don't mind not having another power brick for my next phone. I already have plenty of lightning cables sitting around and ways to plug them in.

theshrike79 6y ago

The phone will still charge perfectly well with any lightning cable.

pwinnski 6y ago

Right. I have a pile of existing charges and cables, no problem. The new free included cable will let me charge my new phone* from my MacBook, something I currently cannot do! * I don't actually plan to buy a new phone, but hypothetically.

ballenf 6y ago
Just based on MacBook vs. iPhone sales numbers, Apple sells 40 iPhones for every laptop. Most iPhone owners don't have an Apple laptop. Numbers from 2018: 217M iPhones, 5M laptops: https://www.statista.com/topics/847/apple/ https://www.statista.com/topics/847/apple/
- stouset 6y ago
  Most people hold onto their laptops for longer than they go between phone upgrades. And many (most? all?) laptop manufactures have USB-C ports on their devices these days, all of which can be used to charge your phone.