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Removing the charger under the guise of helping the environment was disingenuous by Apple. They said they shipped a billion chargers so they’ll just include the

Removing the charger under the guise of helping the environment was disingenuous by Apple. They said they shipped a billion chargers so they’ll just include the cable from now on. Well, the cable is Lightning-to-USB-C, not USB-A. Apple shipped nearly zero USB-C chargers and many people getting an iPhone will have to buy one. In the end, Apple removed the charger but didn’t lower the price, and people still have to buy a charger.

oflannabhra 6y ago
True, but there's nothing from preventing you from using your old phones USB-A to lightning cord and brick to charge your new phone. That is what I plan on doing.
- babesh 6y ago
  The problem is that the cables have a weakness that causes them to eventually break. Getting a new brick and cable to go with the phone solves that issue at least for a few years. With the new cable being USB-C, you can’t use the old brick with the new cable. The brick was also useful when traveling to places without USB-C ports or even other USB ports.
  - dkonofalski 6y ago
    But that's the whole point. You'll buy one at that point because you need it. Giving people the brick whether they need it or not is what makes it wasteful and costly for all involved.
    - babesh 6y ago
      The point is that you will most likely immediately need it. Example, I charge my phone bedside. Now I need to either buy a brick or if I do what Apple wants me to do which is to buy the MagSafe charger. This incentivizes people to buy yet another Apple accessory. That and margins are the real purpose. One more foot into the Apple ecosystem.
      - babesh 6y ago
        It’s the same with the now missing headphones. Now you are incentivized to buy AirPods.
      - dkonofalski 6y ago
        >you will most likely immediately need it What is that based on? The vast majority of iPhone buyers are existing iPhone users and will not need the brick. I have 4 bricks and cables in a drawer right now and I don't need them at all because I have a Qi wireless charger on my nightstand. Most people will not need the brick.
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oflannabhra 6y ago

True, but there's nothing from preventing you from using your old phones USB-A to lightning cord and brick to charge your new phone. That is what I plan on doing.

babesh 6y ago
The problem is that the cables have a weakness that causes them to eventually break. Getting a new brick and cable to go with the phone solves that issue at least for a few years. With the new cable being USB-C, you can’t use the old brick with the new cable. The brick was also useful when traveling to places without USB-C ports or even other USB ports.
- dkonofalski 6y ago
  But that's the whole point. You'll buy one at that point because you need it. Giving people the brick whether they need it or not is what makes it wasteful and costly for all involved.
  - babesh 6y ago
    The point is that you will most likely immediately need it. Example, I charge my phone bedside. Now I need to either buy a brick or if I do what Apple wants me to do which is to buy the MagSafe charger. This incentivizes people to buy yet another Apple accessory. That and margins are the real purpose. One more foot into the Apple ecosystem.
    - babesh 6y ago
      It’s the same with the now missing headphones. Now you are incentivized to buy AirPods.
    - dkonofalski 6y ago
      >you will most likely immediately need it What is that based on? The vast majority of iPhone buyers are existing iPhone users and will not need the brick. I have 4 bricks and cables in a drawer right now and I don't need them at all because I have a Qi wireless charger on my nightstand. Most people will not need the brick.
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