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Teens are horrible across the world, but some cultures manage school life a bit better (of course, probably with some other trade-offs). Indians (and Chinese t
by kinkrtyavimoodh 6y ago
Teens are horrible across the world, but some cultures manage school life a bit better (of course, probably with some other trade-offs).
Indians (and Chinese too I think) for example, generally have some amount of implicit respect for 'education' (there is a goddess of learning and education in India) and for teachers. Parents-from-hell exist but at least when I was growing up, discipline was expected, teachers were given the benefit of doubt instead of always siding with the kids, kids actually used to be somewhat scared of teachers and the principal (I mean sure they would make fun of them behind their back but at least there was some amount of deference to authority) and the overall environment kept kids in line.
The kind of bullying that passes for normal in American schools would never fly. I mean it doesn't fly in American workplaces either. It's the kind of bullshit we only tolerate in schools for some reason.
- thaumasiotes 6y ago> Indians (and Chinese too I think) for example, generally have some amount of implicit respect for 'education' (there is a goddess of learning and education in India) and for teachers. I can confirm this is true of Chinese.
- wisty 6y agoChinese and Indian schools might be run like a boot camp, but that's better than running the school like a prison (forced attendance but less structure).
- sharadov 6y agoReally India is good? The only things that the education system there is geared to do is have kids cram stuff and regurgitate it and create assembly lines of mindless robots. No emphasis on analytical skills or any focus on music, theater, art or sports. Hell, 90% of schools don't have basic facilities like a playground. I went to a school where I got an all-rounded experience, but was fortunate and it's an elitist institution ( akin to a prep-school here), so out of reach of many. You can criticize the American school system as much as you want, but for the most part it does a pretty good job. Bullying can get bad, but some of it is also teaching you critical life skills. There is plenty of workplace bullying too, you know what you do, you grow some balls and stand up to the bully.
- kinkrtyavimoodh 6y ago> No emphasis on analytical skills or any focus on music, theater, art or sports. Hell, 90% of schools don't have basic facilities like a playground. Which part of implementing this in American schools needs them to be the hell-holes they are?
- sharadov 6y agoHell holes? I see a wee bit of exaggeration there. You make it sound like West-Africa. And Indian schools had capital punishment, you got your ass-kicked by teachers, not sure if its still the same or not?
- crpatino 6y ago> The only things that the education system there is geared to do is have kids cram stuff and regurgitate it and create assembly lines of mindless robots. How is any better to have most robots pointlessly soil 90% of the raw materials they are put to work with, with the worst of them launching vicious attacks against the few robots that do anything remotely close to what they were programmed to do in the first place? > You can criticize the American school system as much as you want, but for the most part it does a pretty good job. It does a pretty good... scratch that. A passable job for the minority of students that have developed the academic skills to some amount of critical thinking. Most teenagers cannot do that, because their brains need in the ballpark of 5 more years of maturing. What most students learn out of that kind of education are two things: "I am stupid" and "Academic fraud is Ok, everybody does it". Classical education recognizes that fact, and instead of trying to push for a level of abstraction that most cannot yet achieve, they train for concrete skills that will be useful now and in the future. It is Ok to plant the seeds of abstraction and critical thinking at a young age, but you should combine it with specific examples of people using those skills. You learn the results of abstraction first, then you get to see how abstraction was applied to get those results. Much later, if you are so inclined, you will be presented with opportunities to do some abstraction of your own.
- licebmi__at__ 6y agoAs a non american who went to a pretty strict school, I can say that my school life was hell because the teachers didn't care about the rest of the classroom bullying me until it affected their class personally, that's it, when I dared to fight back; and my parents siding with the teachers didn't help the least bit. A strict environment might be good for education, but I don't think helps reduce bullying.
- ausjke 6y agoThis seems to be true, some of the public high school(and middle school for the most part) are absolutely hell in US. In Asia kids actually respect their teachers as some honorable adults or even role models, it's a culture thing. The teachers are also graduated from good colleges and earning a decent pay. It's a whole different scenario. by the way, as for the skin-color-based and gender-based AA admission policies, that does not exist at all in Asia.
- ausjke 6y agowhy is the parent post voted down? I feel what it described is very insightful to me.