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I would suggest you look at it as not too soon, and cancelled without completing the story. Glow is one of the latest instances. They paid the actors for seaso

by selykg 6y ago

I would suggest you look at it as not too soon, and cancelled without completing the story. Glow is one of the latest instances. They paid the actors for season 4, but never produced season 4. It left with a very unsatisfying ending. Will I ever recommend anyone with Glow on Netflix? no, because I can't tell them "Hey, watch this show on Netflix, but it doesn't have an ending and likely never will" It's similar to how I'll never recommend The Kingkiller Chronicles or a Song of Ice and Fire. Because doing so would mean that someone reading those would probably never have an ending. This is where I feel Netflix is hurting themselves. They're producing all this content and then never finishing it. Their catalog is going to start looking like a bunch of incomplete shows. I think it's fine if you have a show with a short run. One season that finishes properly? Great! Two seasons? Great! but ending before it finishes is just as bad as continuing on forever with no end goal.

the_af 6y ago
> Will I ever recommend anyone with Glow on Netflix? I think I've only watched season 1 of Glow, really liked it, and for whatever reason never watched the rest. I remember the season finale served as an ending of sorts. I'm sure season 2 opens more arcs to resolve, but season 1 ended satisfactorily enough for me. Anyone not watching because Netflix cancelled the show will miss something cool.
mixmastamyk 6y ago
Yes, and this is compounded by the season-ending cliffhanger.
eindiran 6y ago
You think The Kingkiller Chronicles will never be finished? I'd be quite disappointed by that.
- selykg 6y ago
  The second book was published in 2011. It has now been 9 years between books and there's no sign of book 3 anywhere. His editor posted on social media that they haven't seen even a draft of the third book. If you have hope that book 3 exists, I would caution you to reign in your expectations a bit.
  - Viliam1234 6y ago
    I have been waiting since 1993 for the fifth part of The War Against the Chtorr.
- zaphirplane 6y ago
  To be fair, respect for talent . When you can create a tv show the caliber of game of throne 5 years after the 1st book is release catch-up and over take the books. It makes you wonder if there is difficultly to completing epic, wheel of time dragged out, king killer and game of thrones. On the other hand Malazan seems to be fine thou it’s loosely bound, and the book writing AI brandon sanderson works 25 hours a day
  - selykg 6y ago
    To be fair, game of thrones, the first book in the song of ice and fire series came out in [1996](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire#Overview https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire#Overvie...) The TV show started in 2011. Kingkiller Chronicles is only 3 books, hardly epic. It's a trilogy. The first book came out in 2007, second in 2011, and nothing has been seen of the third, and presumably, final book. Brandon Sanderson treats writing books as a job, thus he writes every day. Now you could argue that his books aren't as entertaining to you (subjective) or that his prose isn't as good (a bit less subjective), but he does treat his job like a job. Whereas Rothfuss and GRRM seem to try to do literally anything but continue writing their books. Sanderson isn't a bot but he has something a lot of people lack, work ethic.
    - mdhen 6y ago
      Stephen King sits down every day and writes x amount of pages. 10 or 15 maybe, been awhile since I've read on writing but he talks about it in there. He is not super concerned about the quality of it, he just wants to get it out there. If those pages end up as part of an actual book then he'll obviously be going back over them etc. I assume Sanderson operates very similarly. GRRM on the other hand agonizes over writing out perfect rough draft pages and thus never gets anything done.
      - selykg 6y ago
        Yea, there's usually two general types of writers, and they can be on a teeter totter so to speak: Those that outline and plan ahead of time using the outline Those that write the story as they write Sanderson is very much an outliner, I think GRRM is more a it'll come together as I write it kind of person. He probably has some sort of plan, but it isn't as fine tuned as Sanderson's I suspect. Sanderson does multiple drafts as well, which works with how I write. My first draft may be complete trash, but getting it on paper helps me a lot in at least getting the ideas out and then I can fine tune or start over if I'm not happy at all. But yes, I think Sanderson is very much a "I write regardless and I'll refine it over time" type of person and doesn't agonize over the little details until it's time to actually do that.
Uhhrrr 6y ago
Glow is a fun show, but once the wrestling show found an audience and the characters found a certain degree of fulfillment in their wrestling roles, the stakes seemed lower to me. I'm happy with the season 3 ending as a show finale. But I would still recommend it, or Song of Ice and Fire, because there are a lot of good parts for both. Same for Stranger Things. Is * really dead? It's not that important compared to how well it nails 80s kids horror fantasia.
- cgriswald 6y ago
  In general, are you more likely to suggest a complete show or one that ends abruptly with several dangling plot threads? Stranger Things season 1 would have been a fantastic show if it just ended there (without the final cliffhanger scene). I'd recommend it to everybody. If Stranger Things just ended now, I might still recommend it to everybody, but I'd be decidedly less likely to do so, and it would always come with the caveat "They didn't actually finish it." So not only am I less likely to recommend it, but the caveat means the other person is less likely to watch it based on the recommendation if I do. (I might also say, "Don't bother watching past season X," which is still bad for Netflix.)
  - Uhhrrr 6y ago
    I recommended Star Wars before the other 8 came out, and have continued this pattern since.
    - blaser-waffle 6y ago
      The Matrix, but without the other two, and the robots were using people for parallel processing not batteries.
srtjstjsj 6y ago
GLOW works fine regardless of how many seasons you want. Every season has an ending. There's no need to literally see every character's end of life like Soprano's and Six Feet Under
- selykg 6y ago
  I feel like you didn't watch Season 3.
  - cgriswald 6y ago
    I feel like he didn't watch the last episode of the Sopranos...
    - gabagool 6y ago
      Depending on how you interpret the last episode, you absolutely did. And, in my opinion, it got a great ending regardless of personal interpretation.
      - cgriswald 6y ago
        I'd agree you could interpret it multiple ways, but the poster said 'literally.'
heavenlyblue 6y ago
What would make Glow finished? They all grow up to 65 and become feminist writers, after having gone to the LEO as the first all-female space crew? Not everything needs an ending.

by selykg 6y ago

the_af 6y ago

> Will I ever recommend anyone with Glow on Netflix? I think I've only watched season 1 of Glow, really liked it, and for whatever reason never watched the rest. I remember the season finale served as an ending of sorts. I'm sure season 2 opens more arcs to resolve, but season 1 ended satisfactorily enough for me. Anyone not watching because Netflix cancelled the show will miss something cool.

mixmastamyk 6y ago

Yes, and this is compounded by the season-ending cliffhanger.

eindiran 6y ago

You think The Kingkiller Chronicles will never be finished? I'd be quite disappointed by that.

selykg 6y ago
The second book was published in 2011. It has now been 9 years between books and there's no sign of book 3 anywhere. His editor posted on social media that they haven't seen even a draft of the third book. If you have hope that book 3 exists, I would caution you to reign in your expectations a bit.
- Viliam1234 6y ago
  I have been waiting since 1993 for the fifth part of The War Against the Chtorr.
zaphirplane 6y ago
To be fair, respect for talent . When you can create a tv show the caliber of game of throne 5 years after the 1st book is release catch-up and over take the books. It makes you wonder if there is difficultly to completing epic, wheel of time dragged out, king killer and game of thrones. On the other hand Malazan seems to be fine thou it’s loosely bound, and the book writing AI brandon sanderson works 25 hours a day
- selykg 6y ago
  To be fair, game of thrones, the first book in the song of ice and fire series came out in [1996](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire#Overview https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire#Overvie...) The TV show started in 2011. Kingkiller Chronicles is only 3 books, hardly epic. It's a trilogy. The first book came out in 2007, second in 2011, and nothing has been seen of the third, and presumably, final book. Brandon Sanderson treats writing books as a job, thus he writes every day. Now you could argue that his books aren't as entertaining to you (subjective) or that his prose isn't as good (a bit less subjective), but he does treat his job like a job. Whereas Rothfuss and GRRM seem to try to do literally anything but continue writing their books. Sanderson isn't a bot but he has something a lot of people lack, work ethic.
  - mdhen 6y ago
    Stephen King sits down every day and writes x amount of pages. 10 or 15 maybe, been awhile since I've read on writing but he talks about it in there. He is not super concerned about the quality of it, he just wants to get it out there. If those pages end up as part of an actual book then he'll obviously be going back over them etc. I assume Sanderson operates very similarly. GRRM on the other hand agonizes over writing out perfect rough draft pages and thus never gets anything done.
    - selykg 6y ago
      Yea, there's usually two general types of writers, and they can be on a teeter totter so to speak: Those that outline and plan ahead of time using the outline Those that write the story as they write Sanderson is very much an outliner, I think GRRM is more a it'll come together as I write it kind of person. He probably has some sort of plan, but it isn't as fine tuned as Sanderson's I suspect. Sanderson does multiple drafts as well, which works with how I write. My first draft may be complete trash, but getting it on paper helps me a lot in at least getting the ideas out and then I can fine tune or start over if I'm not happy at all. But yes, I think Sanderson is very much a "I write regardless and I'll refine it over time" type of person and doesn't agonize over the little details until it's time to actually do that.

Uhhrrr 6y ago

Glow is a fun show, but once the wrestling show found an audience and the characters found a certain degree of fulfillment in their wrestling roles, the stakes seemed lower to me. I'm happy with the season 3 ending as a show finale. But I would still recommend it, or Song of Ice and Fire, because there are a lot of good parts for both. Same for Stranger Things. Is * really dead? It's not that important compared to how well it nails 80s kids horror fantasia.

cgriswald 6y ago
In general, are you more likely to suggest a complete show or one that ends abruptly with several dangling plot threads? Stranger Things season 1 would have been a fantastic show if it just ended there (without the final cliffhanger scene). I'd recommend it to everybody. If Stranger Things just ended now, I might still recommend it to everybody, but I'd be decidedly less likely to do so, and it would always come with the caveat "They didn't actually finish it." So not only am I less likely to recommend it, but the caveat means the other person is less likely to watch it based on the recommendation if I do. (I might also say, "Don't bother watching past season X," which is still bad for Netflix.)
- Uhhrrr 6y ago
  I recommended Star Wars before the other 8 came out, and have continued this pattern since.
  - blaser-waffle 6y ago
    The Matrix, but without the other two, and the robots were using people for parallel processing not batteries.

srtjstjsj 6y ago

GLOW works fine regardless of how many seasons you want. Every season has an ending. There's no need to literally see every character's end of life like Soprano's and Six Feet Under

selykg 6y ago
I feel like you didn't watch Season 3.
- cgriswald 6y ago
  I feel like he didn't watch the last episode of the Sopranos...
  - gabagool 6y ago
    Depending on how you interpret the last episode, you absolutely did. And, in my opinion, it got a great ending regardless of personal interpretation.
    - cgriswald 6y ago
      I'd agree you could interpret it multiple ways, but the poster said 'literally.'

heavenlyblue 6y ago

What would make Glow finished? They all grow up to 65 and become feminist writers, after having gone to the LEO as the first all-female space crew? Not everything needs an ending.