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This, on top of songs disappearing from my playlists, rendered unavailable. I organize everything in foobar now, both local music and streaming playlists with

This, on top of songs disappearing from my playlists, rendered unavailable. I organize everything in foobar now, both local music and streaming playlists with the help of extensions. You can add Youtube sources to your playlists. Even if the links break, you can automatically fix them, keep the name and structure. Have not tried the app versions.

pelario 6y ago
Oh man, how do I wish a foobar that runs natively on Linux :(
- raffraffraff 6y ago
  It pains me to say it, but music apps on Linux are abysmal. The last one that wasn't completely crap was Amazon 1.4.
  - gdrift 6y ago
    MPD on linux + Android MPD client as the the GUI works well for me.
  - jraph 6y ago
    Clementine [1] is pretty cool. It does everything I need: - cross-fading between songs - a real queue that is separate from the playlist so you can program what plays next and in which order easily (CTRL+D to add / remove, and a advanced window can show the queue) - a remote control with an Android app - stop after this song - a giant search / filter bar. It does not has to have the focus to start searching, just type when Clementine is the active window - MPRIS integration (obviously) - several playlists open at the same time - the mood bar It also has: - tag editing - integration with many online services - a library handling that does not get in the way but full-featured anyway - support for removable media It's awesome. It could use some pretty some improvement for its look, but it is pretty decent and does the job. It's a fork and a continuation of Amarok 1.4. [1] https://clementine-player.org/ https://clementine-player.org/
    - aojdwhsd 6y ago
      I really like Strawberry [1], a fork of Clementine. "It is a fork of Clementine released in 2018 aimed at music collectors and audiophiles." [1] https://github.com/strawberrymusicplayer/strawberry https://github.com/strawberrymusicplayer/strawberry
    - notyourwork 6y ago
      +1 When I ran linux everywhere, Clementine was my goto player. This was over 5 years ago, I'm sure its only gotten better.
      - psychometry 6y ago
        According to their website, the most recent release is from 2016.
        jraph 6y ago
        Distributions actually ship more recent versions from the git repository. I'm currently running a release tagged as version 1.4 rc2 (openSUSE Tumbleweed). The project is still alive, it somehow has an issue releasing a version but the player is stable.
  - HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
    There are a million music apps for linux. What exactly are you looking for?
    - tobyhinloopen 6y ago
      That’s the problem: a million apps, but none of them are decent
      - psychometry 6y ago
        Yeah, none of them even have the feature set of iTunes from 10 years ago.
  - lmedinas 6y ago
    Audacious is still top notch imo.
  - bigbubba 6y ago
    I use mpv. It's primarily meant as a video player but it works well for music too and even as an image viewer (alternative to 'feh') There is a pretty active community of people writing scripts for mpv (Lua or JS) and it's generally really nice for users with a hacker ethos. I consider it the Emacs of multimedia. (I wouldn't recommend it for casual users, I tell family members to use VLC.)
  - fivre 6y ago
    deadbeef (https://github.com/DeaDBeeF-Player/deadbeef https://github.com/DeaDBeeF-Player/deadbeef) tries to be a foobar2k clone of sorts, and while it's nowhere close (foobar2k is just really damn good), it's alright for what it is: a basic GUI playlist manager that plays on-disk music. The bare-bones experience is kind of nice, to be honest, as my listening habits don't really need much functionality beyond "load a folder of music, respond to media key inputs, and scrobble to last.fm".
  - jeegsy 6y ago
    *Amarok
- slothtrop 6y ago
  Yes. Failing that, it's possible with wine - https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php?topic=54933.0 https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php?topic=54933.0
- b215826 6y ago
  Have you tried DeaDBeeF? It's a very minimalistic player with a ton of features (ReplayGain support, gapless playback, etc.).
- arsome 6y ago
  I was actually really unimpressed with FooBar being a linux user coming from Amarok 1.4 and then Clementine, is there something that's supposed to be good about it? Seemed really ugly and required plugins to get basic features.
abdullahkhalids 6y ago
I still hear the echoes of the songs I listened to on Grooveshark that disappeared overnight.
- TooCleverByHalf 6y ago
  Oi, same. Cliché or not, Obi-wan said it best: > ...as if millions of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced I've since created a playlist dedicated to those lost songs, long forgotten fossils, as I randomly re-find or re-remember them. Sadly, there's fewer than 20 songs in there even after all this time.
Darkphibre 6y ago
Say, one thing that I really appreciate from Spotify is the weekly playlist. I love discovering music, and it usually has a few songs I end up liking. Does foobar have a module that does recommendations? Or is there a community aggregation-of-playlists out there I could roll my own? I still remember being impressed by the preference-clustering paper in '95 (https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.100.5571&rep=rep1&type=pdf https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.10...) by an MIT grad for what became Firefly (later purchased by Microsoft solely for their sign-in tech called Passport https://web.archive.org/web/19970116111618/http://www.firefly.net/technology.htm https://web.archive.org/web/19970116111618/http://www.firefl... , still a bit annoyed they shut it down and let music recommendation languish for another decade).
- slothtrop 6y ago
  Nothing like that I'm afraid. Though I've added m3u links to radio stations and use that for some discovery, alongside bandcamp, reddit, youtube. Personally I find independent radio is underrated, they often save their streams in archives online. Wefunkradio is a good example. EDIT: incidentally there was a recent Spotify integration component: https://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_spotify https://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_spotify , not sure if that still works. It also looks like there was an older one for creating playlists using last.fm.
- philsnow 6y ago
  Do you need to have a subscription to get the weekly playlists? I wonder if you could you "scrobble" your local non-spotify song plays into a free spotify account and then scrape the generated playlists. You'd need a way to use whatever song metadata you have locally to find spotify's copy (if any), a way to drive plays (if you have to use the official client, have it dump to a null audio sink), and a way to scrape playlists.
nixpulvis 6y ago
Just give me the fucking mp3 or flac files, subscriptions should be advertised as radio, not a music "library". I've been bitching about the industry burning down my shelves for years now... it's unfathomable how much people rely on these stupid streaming services. That said, I'd still gladly pay for the music discovery, I just have started to feel cheated out of my money over the years doing so. Should I really be paying $10/month to listen to the same songs I listen to every other month. I don't go on a music collection binge all that often you know. And then poof, it's gone.
- bigbubba 6y ago
  On the plus side, pirating music has never been easier. Just rip the audio tracks from youtube with youtube-dl. Coverage is pretty good and so is the audio quality (I am not an audiophile.) No need to sleaze a private tracker invite off IRC or anything like that.
- psychometry 6y ago
  last.fm is still going strong. Send your plays there from pretty much any service/app and you'll start getting recommendations.
  - thefunnyman 6y ago
    Huge fan of last.fm. I haven’t been using their discovery features (though I may start now that you’ve mentioned it), but I absolutely love all the listening statistics they offer. I find it super interesting to see how my listening habits and music taste evolve over time , as well as seeing which tracks I come back to most.
- fivre 6y ago
  Good news! Bandcamp is exactly that (giving you your choice of FLAC or MP3 or whatever, without DRM, and available for download again so long as Bandcamp continues to exist) and is good for artists, since it's an actual album sale, so none of the nonsense associated with streaming payouts. It's good for discovery also, since while Bandcamp Daily is a marketing tool, it's still written by music nerds who do a good job curating music from local scenes and odd genres. Indie labels also often run storefronts on Bandcamp, and are a decent way of finding the same, as most release music from their local area or with a similar sound. It's different from algorithmic discovery, and requires a bit more effort, but IMO it's worth it to explore on your own, and a fun way to learn something more about an album or track than streaming services' "Chill Hip Hop Beats To Study/Relax To"-style personality-void mood-based curation. Bandcamp isn't perfect, to be sure. It's not as good for older music (though there are niche labels like https://habibifunkrecords.bandcamp.com/ https://habibifunkrecords.bandcamp.com/ that dig up old recordings and re-release them digitally) or big-name artists on major labels, but there's so much music available nowadays that you usually won't be at a loss for something to listen to, you just won't always be able to find a specific track as easily as on Spotify. Their mobile app also isn't great, and really needs to add a way to download tracks for offline listening, but hey, no music service is perfect, and I'm fine using a mix of both it and Spotify where one offers a better experience than the other.
MildlySerious 6y ago
If it helps, in the settings you can enable an option to display songs even when they are unavailable. It's not perfect but I find it much easier to compromise on that as opposed to Youtube's practice of slowly rotting away playlists until all that's left is a mix of [Deleted Video] and [Private Video]
Crabtr 6y ago
> on top of songs disappearing from my playlists It might have been the case that the song didn't disappear, but is instead hidden because it's unavailable. At the bottom of the preferences window there's a section called "display options." In there enable "show unavailable songs in playlists."

pelario 6y ago

Oh man, how do I wish a foobar that runs natively on Linux :(

raffraffraff 6y ago
It pains me to say it, but music apps on Linux are abysmal. The last one that wasn't completely crap was Amazon 1.4.
- gdrift 6y ago
  MPD on linux + Android MPD client as the the GUI works well for me.
- jraph 6y ago
  Clementine [1] is pretty cool. It does everything I need: - cross-fading between songs - a real queue that is separate from the playlist so you can program what plays next and in which order easily (CTRL+D to add / remove, and a advanced window can show the queue) - a remote control with an Android app - stop after this song - a giant search / filter bar. It does not has to have the focus to start searching, just type when Clementine is the active window - MPRIS integration (obviously) - several playlists open at the same time - the mood bar It also has: - tag editing - integration with many online services - a library handling that does not get in the way but full-featured anyway - support for removable media It's awesome. It could use some pretty some improvement for its look, but it is pretty decent and does the job. It's a fork and a continuation of Amarok 1.4. [1] https://clementine-player.org/ https://clementine-player.org/
  - aojdwhsd 6y ago
    I really like Strawberry [1], a fork of Clementine. "It is a fork of Clementine released in 2018 aimed at music collectors and audiophiles." [1] https://github.com/strawberrymusicplayer/strawberry https://github.com/strawberrymusicplayer/strawberry
  - notyourwork 6y ago
    +1 When I ran linux everywhere, Clementine was my goto player. This was over 5 years ago, I'm sure its only gotten better.
    - psychometry 6y ago
      According to their website, the most recent release is from 2016.
      - jraph 6y ago
        Distributions actually ship more recent versions from the git repository. I'm currently running a release tagged as version 1.4 rc2 (openSUSE Tumbleweed). The project is still alive, it somehow has an issue releasing a version but the player is stable.
- HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
  There are a million music apps for linux. What exactly are you looking for?
  - tobyhinloopen 6y ago
    That’s the problem: a million apps, but none of them are decent
    - psychometry 6y ago
      Yeah, none of them even have the feature set of iTunes from 10 years ago.
- lmedinas 6y ago
  Audacious is still top notch imo.
- bigbubba 6y ago
  I use mpv. It's primarily meant as a video player but it works well for music too and even as an image viewer (alternative to 'feh') There is a pretty active community of people writing scripts for mpv (Lua or JS) and it's generally really nice for users with a hacker ethos. I consider it the Emacs of multimedia. (I wouldn't recommend it for casual users, I tell family members to use VLC.)
- fivre 6y ago
  deadbeef (https://github.com/DeaDBeeF-Player/deadbeef https://github.com/DeaDBeeF-Player/deadbeef) tries to be a foobar2k clone of sorts, and while it's nowhere close (foobar2k is just really damn good), it's alright for what it is: a basic GUI playlist manager that plays on-disk music. The bare-bones experience is kind of nice, to be honest, as my listening habits don't really need much functionality beyond "load a folder of music, respond to media key inputs, and scrobble to last.fm".
- jeegsy 6y ago
  *Amarok
slothtrop 6y ago
Yes. Failing that, it's possible with wine - https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php?topic=54933.0 https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php?topic=54933.0
b215826 6y ago
Have you tried DeaDBeeF? It's a very minimalistic player with a ton of features (ReplayGain support, gapless playback, etc.).
arsome 6y ago
I was actually really unimpressed with FooBar being a linux user coming from Amarok 1.4 and then Clementine, is there something that's supposed to be good about it? Seemed really ugly and required plugins to get basic features.

abdullahkhalids 6y ago

I still hear the echoes of the songs I listened to on Grooveshark that disappeared overnight.

TooCleverByHalf 6y ago
Oi, same. Cliché or not, Obi-wan said it best: > ...as if millions of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced I've since created a playlist dedicated to those lost songs, long forgotten fossils, as I randomly re-find or re-remember them. Sadly, there's fewer than 20 songs in there even after all this time.

Darkphibre 6y ago

Say, one thing that I really appreciate from Spotify is the weekly playlist. I love discovering music, and it usually has a few songs I end up liking. Does foobar have a module that does recommendations? Or is there a community aggregation-of-playlists out there I could roll my own? I still remember being impressed by the preference-clustering paper in '95 (https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.100.5571&rep=rep1&type=pdf https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.10...) by an MIT grad for what became Firefly (later purchased by Microsoft solely for their sign-in tech called Passport https://web.archive.org/web/19970116111618/http://www.firefly.net/technology.htm https://web.archive.org/web/19970116111618/http://www.firefl... , still a bit annoyed they shut it down and let music recommendation languish for another decade).

slothtrop 6y ago
Nothing like that I'm afraid. Though I've added m3u links to radio stations and use that for some discovery, alongside bandcamp, reddit, youtube. Personally I find independent radio is underrated, they often save their streams in archives online. Wefunkradio is a good example. EDIT: incidentally there was a recent Spotify integration component: https://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_spotify https://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_spotify , not sure if that still works. It also looks like there was an older one for creating playlists using last.fm.
philsnow 6y ago
Do you need to have a subscription to get the weekly playlists? I wonder if you could you "scrobble" your local non-spotify song plays into a free spotify account and then scrape the generated playlists. You'd need a way to use whatever song metadata you have locally to find spotify's copy (if any), a way to drive plays (if you have to use the official client, have it dump to a null audio sink), and a way to scrape playlists.

nixpulvis 6y ago

Just give me the fucking mp3 or flac files, subscriptions should be advertised as radio, not a music "library". I've been bitching about the industry burning down my shelves for years now... it's unfathomable how much people rely on these stupid streaming services. That said, I'd still gladly pay for the music discovery, I just have started to feel cheated out of my money over the years doing so. Should I really be paying $10/month to listen to the same songs I listen to every other month. I don't go on a music collection binge all that often you know. And then poof, it's gone.

bigbubba 6y ago
On the plus side, pirating music has never been easier. Just rip the audio tracks from youtube with youtube-dl. Coverage is pretty good and so is the audio quality (I am not an audiophile.) No need to sleaze a private tracker invite off IRC or anything like that.
psychometry 6y ago
last.fm is still going strong. Send your plays there from pretty much any service/app and you'll start getting recommendations.
- thefunnyman 6y ago
  Huge fan of last.fm. I haven’t been using their discovery features (though I may start now that you’ve mentioned it), but I absolutely love all the listening statistics they offer. I find it super interesting to see how my listening habits and music taste evolve over time , as well as seeing which tracks I come back to most.
fivre 6y ago
Good news! Bandcamp is exactly that (giving you your choice of FLAC or MP3 or whatever, without DRM, and available for download again so long as Bandcamp continues to exist) and is good for artists, since it's an actual album sale, so none of the nonsense associated with streaming payouts. It's good for discovery also, since while Bandcamp Daily is a marketing tool, it's still written by music nerds who do a good job curating music from local scenes and odd genres. Indie labels also often run storefronts on Bandcamp, and are a decent way of finding the same, as most release music from their local area or with a similar sound. It's different from algorithmic discovery, and requires a bit more effort, but IMO it's worth it to explore on your own, and a fun way to learn something more about an album or track than streaming services' "Chill Hip Hop Beats To Study/Relax To"-style personality-void mood-based curation. Bandcamp isn't perfect, to be sure. It's not as good for older music (though there are niche labels like https://habibifunkrecords.bandcamp.com/ https://habibifunkrecords.bandcamp.com/ that dig up old recordings and re-release them digitally) or big-name artists on major labels, but there's so much music available nowadays that you usually won't be at a loss for something to listen to, you just won't always be able to find a specific track as easily as on Spotify. Their mobile app also isn't great, and really needs to add a way to download tracks for offline listening, but hey, no music service is perfect, and I'm fine using a mix of both it and Spotify where one offers a better experience than the other.

MildlySerious 6y ago

If it helps, in the settings you can enable an option to display songs even when they are unavailable. It's not perfect but I find it much easier to compromise on that as opposed to Youtube's practice of slowly rotting away playlists until all that's left is a mix of [Deleted Video] and [Private Video]

Crabtr 6y ago

> on top of songs disappearing from my playlists It might have been the case that the song didn't disappear, but is instead hidden because it's unavailable. At the bottom of the preferences window there's a section called "display options." In there enable "show unavailable songs in playlists."