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From my point of view the problem manifests in this way: I simply don't bother to invest the time to watch new shows until it's clear that they're going to get
by bartread 6y ago
From my point of view the problem manifests in this way: I simply don't bother to invest the time to watch new shows until it's clear that they're going to get a proper run that allows them to finish well (Breaking Bad, Justified; even Sons of Anarchy, which was a real slog for the last 3 seasons, ended well).
I'm tired of investing time in shows that Netflix simply drops: The Expanse (though now thankfully picked up by Amazon), Designated Survivor, and Shooter (although that was total crap, especially after season 1) spring immediately to mind, but there have been plenty of others.
I also won't bother starting to watch shows that I know Netflix have cancelled before they've concluded (e.g., Glow), because what's the point? And this is starting to severely erode the value of Netflix's library to me.
Things that have worked incredibly well on Netflix are shows that tell self-contained stories within a single season, like Narcos or Fargo, or shows that tell have a self contained but are able to tell it in a longer form than feature film would allow. The canonical example of the latter for me is Godless, which is one of the best shows on TV, I think. Genuinely fantastic.
And this last point leads on to another, which others have made: US TV series are too long, typically 18 - 24 episodes per season, multiple seasons, often too bloated with filler episodes, and often suffer from ridiculous over-plotting after the first few seasons, which comes off as aimless thrashing around: Prison Break (season 3 onwards: just utter nonsense), 24 (SPOILER ALERT: I mean, seriously, WTF was that Tony Almeida betrayal storyline all about in, I think, the final season - multiple sharks were jumped and I'm still pissed off about it).
On the flipside UK TV series are often too short: 6 half-hour episodes is still quite typical, so you're only really getting into a show and then suddenly the season ends. With that said, for some shows this has been made to work really well: Line of Duty, or the earlier seasons of Luther.
I do feel like, for many shows, a happy medium would be 10 - 12 hour long episodes. You could then afford to make a much more polished product, whilst still probably investing quite a bit less.
- pr0zac 6y agoI agree with all your points but do think its important to clarify that The Expanse was originally cancelled by SyFy not Netflix before being picked up by Amazon, Netflix just had streaming rights at the time.
- bartread 6y agoAh, yes, good point: my apologies and thank you for the correction.
- chrisdhal 6y agoDesignated Survior ran on ABC for 2 seasons, Netflix made one more, so really ABC cancelled it and Netflix brought it back. This is similar to what they are doing with Lucifer right now. Shooter was a USA Network series, not Netflix.
- bartread 6y agoThank you for the corrections: all fair points. Unfortunately I can't edit my post but I suppose the modification would be to widen my point: i.e., that my frustration actually applies to shows made by a variety of networks, but picked up by Netflix. The result is actually the same though: the library of shows Netflix hosts (whether their own or otherwise) becomes less valuable due to the number of them that have been cancelled before reaching a conclusion.
- chrisdhal 6y agoYeah, and I generally agree with what you were saying. And I totally agree with some like 24 sigh I think that generally US seasons are too long. However, I only realized that after watching a bunch of foreign (mostly UK) shows on Netflix. These are shows I would have never been exposed to. I too agree that sometimes the UK ones are a bit too short. I remember wanting to watch Luther, but was thinking 5 seasons was a lot (despite loving Idris Elba). Then we got watching and one season (err, series) was 2 episodes. Five series had a total of 20 episodes. That was crazy. The same goes for Sherlock. There's definitely a happy medium, and I feel that the 10ish episode length seems like a nice point.