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Facebook bans accounts fairly regularly for hate speech, which pretty much means whatever they want. It seems ludicrous to me that an edgy teenager can have the
by throwaways885 6y ago
Facebook bans accounts fairly regularly for hate speech, which pretty much means whatever they want. It seems ludicrous to me that an edgy teenager can have their headset bricked because they posted some spicy political memes.
- Fabricio20 6y agoIf only the reason was hate speech! This also happened to me, had an account 5 years ago, stopped using it, deleted the account on their website. Last week decided to create it again to prepare to eventually link to Oculus.. Instantly banned. Literally on the "Confirm Your Email" page got redirected to violated the community guidelines. And I'm not even from the US..
- fragmede 6y ago> And I'm not even from the US.. Accessing Facebook from outside the US is likely, through a combination of bad signals, why you tripped the ban hammer. Unfortunately.
- barrkel 6y agoThe majority of Facebook users access it from outside the US.
- kube-system 6y agoThat doesn’t preclude them from using it as one factor in their abuse detection models. Whether it’s a good idea or not, geolocation is a common factor that these models take into account.
- Fabricio20 6y agoI think it's good to add to the discussion here for other HN readers that the reason I mentioned it was that some people are suggesting this is a measure put in-place by facebook to reduce election interference (as it's happening right now in the US). That may be the case, it may also not be since everyone (doesn't matter where from) seems to be getting banned alike.
- AlexandrB 6y agoThere are similar stories on reddit, with people speculating that the old account actually still existed and the ban was because the new account was imitating an existing account. The idea that they would keep a "deleted" account around seems highly plausible given Facebook's hunger for data.
- Fabricio20 6y agoAs far as I understand it, there's three account states you can be in: - Active = Normal - Deactivated = Deactivated/Not In-Use/Asked to deactivate - Deleted = After asking for deletion, wait (don't log in) for a period of 60? days and your account is deleted. In my particular scenario, I downloaded my data, went through deletion, waited the period and then confirmed the account was deleted (5y ago).
- Macha 6y agoUnless recently changed, I know my father temporarily re-enabled his Facebook account that had been deactivated for years prior
- FreeFull 6y agoDeactivation is what Facebook directs everybody to, but there is actually a way to completely delete an account too. With an actually deleted account, you have to create a new one, there isn't a reactivation option.
- trickstra 6y agoIt sometimes happens if you create account from a suspicious IP address, such as VPN or shared computer at school or cafe. They are trying to prevent account takeovers and fake accounts when some dormant users left weak passwords and got in a leak somewhere. But Facebook is also sometimes a bit too proactive in banning new accounts, because they use this as an opportunity to extract more information from you - you can only unban the account by providing phone number, scan of your ID card etc.. That suits them so they like banning more.
- gdulli 6y agoEven if that was true in the needlessly inflammatory way you stated it, it has nothing to do with this.
- throwaways885 6y agoFacebook doesn't need me to be kind.
- kerng 6y agoThis is not about hate speech... Creating new accounts with Facebook often leads to instaban.
- AlexandrB 6y agoFacebook, their "real name" policy, and their ban policy when combined with hardware like Oculus seem like a series of really bad product decisions. Like with combining messengers between Instagram and Facebook, the business reason is probably to make Oculus harder to split off in the event of anti-trust action. Pretty gross.
- dvfjsdhgfv 6y agoI recently discovered a similar thing with Twitter: when you sign up with e-mail, they block your account and will unblock it only if you give them your phone number.
- tenebrisalietum 6y ago- Political memes in the masses are making fact-based and rational political conversation difficult to impossible. - Teenagers should not be on social networks. - Teenagers who aren't old enough to vote who want to post political memes - that's like 10x me less caring whether they're banned from Facebook. I have no problem with the ban. However, Facebook should separate out its identity service from its social networking service. It might make more money doing this because more people would stick to its services. There's no reason why I shouldn't be able to authenticate with a Facebook account even though Facebook deems me unworthy of participating in its social network.
- AlfeG 6y agoHard thing is that even legit political opinion will be banned if there is enough people that is not in line with your vision. Or like in Ukraine where Facebook moderation team is very very pro government with very narrow vision. Imagine USA moderation of Facebook consists only of pro Trump's fans with power instant ban Your account.
- novia 6y agoI for one think it's hilarious that future gamergate situations might have real world consequences for the participants.
- chaostheory 6y agoI think the bigger problem is Facebook's policing of bots, especially since this is a big election year. I'm going to guess this was the reason for OP's ban
- IronWolve 6y agoI had a post taken down for posting a link to a local gay event. Their algorithm cant figure out pro vs hate speech. So I started migrating the few apps I used FB logins from, (spotify), then stopped using google login because of facebook. Taught me, not to trust these companies with my 3rd party accounts THAT I PAY FOR.
- RonanTheGrey 6y agoThe reason they put is 'hate speech' but I'm basically convinced it's a single, stock error message they show regardless of the reason. How can an account be banned for hate speech 7 minutes after it was created?