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As someone far left of the mainstream political spectrum, there have been more than a few times when I was annoyed by what felt like pandering to "liberal" and

As someone far left of the mainstream political spectrum, there have been more than a few times when I was annoyed by what felt like pandering to "liberal" and pc ideas in netflix shows. Overly overt, unnecessary, "tell me don't show me" themes about how women are strong or whatever. Or a villain whose primary purpose is to make you think of Trump. That space force comedy with Steve Carell comes to mind I don't think it's a political agenda. I think a sizeable portion of people just like seeing this stuff that affirms their beliefs or gives them an example to point to. Conservative leaning stuff does it too, and it's even more annoying when you disagree with its themes. I recall Logan Lucky (movie) was an especially aggravating example of this on the conservative side.

jacobion 6y ago
I somewhat agree with you, but I also think this is different from complaining about the representation of women or black people. Historically most superheroes have been white men. If all contemporary superhero shows had 50% women heroes and 30% non white, it would seem dissonant as fuck, but it wouldn't even remotely be evidence of a "pro-diversity bias".
- klmadfejno 6y ago
  Yeah that's fair. The gender/race swapping is sort of a different thing I guess. By all means, diversity is good, but at the same time, I kind of rolled my eyes when seeing "Enola Holmes" show up on netflix. It's Sherlock Holmes, but a girl! Well technically his sister, but its more or less the same. Maybe its good, but I'm hesitant to watch something that's main thesis seems to be "Girls can be good detectives like Sherlock too". I don't want that. I want a story about a competent female detective that just does things her own way. Say, idk, Jessica Jones. It's the difference between making a film about black Peter Parker vs. (black) Miles Morales for spider man. If they go for Miles, great, sounds like a good start. If they go for the former, you really have to wonder why, and how big of a deal its going to be. Being talked down to with drudgingly obvious and childishly simple messages about racial equality is annoying. It's so, so much better to demonstrate equality by having competent outcomes from a diverse cast.

jacobion 6y ago

I somewhat agree with you, but I also think this is different from complaining about the representation of women or black people. Historically most superheroes have been white men. If all contemporary superhero shows had 50% women heroes and 30% non white, it would seem dissonant as fuck, but it wouldn't even remotely be evidence of a "pro-diversity bias".

klmadfejno 6y ago
Yeah that's fair. The gender/race swapping is sort of a different thing I guess. By all means, diversity is good, but at the same time, I kind of rolled my eyes when seeing "Enola Holmes" show up on netflix. It's Sherlock Holmes, but a girl! Well technically his sister, but its more or less the same. Maybe its good, but I'm hesitant to watch something that's main thesis seems to be "Girls can be good detectives like Sherlock too". I don't want that. I want a story about a competent female detective that just does things her own way. Say, idk, Jessica Jones. It's the difference between making a film about black Peter Parker vs. (black) Miles Morales for spider man. If they go for Miles, great, sounds like a good start. If they go for the former, you really have to wonder why, and how big of a deal its going to be. Being talked down to with drudgingly obvious and childishly simple messages about racial equality is annoying. It's so, so much better to demonstrate equality by having competent outcomes from a diverse cast.