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Netflix is becoming a graveyard of junk shows. This is why, for the most part, I don't start watching streaming service exclusives until their sophomore season

Netflix is becoming a graveyard of junk shows. This is why, for the most part, I don't start watching streaming service exclusives until their sophomore season is complete and they haven't been cancelled. Of course there are few exceptions like Cobra Kai or The Mandalorian where it's evident that the concept is pretty solid and that the show is bonafide hit from the first 10 minutes. But yeah, like for every Netflix hit there's like 10 or more less than promising shows. It's really becoming a graveyard. And when you realize that you can't even give them a shot because you know that even if they're decent there won't be any resolution or closure in the form of a series ending then it makes you not wanna even start to watch them. Seriously, they should fund less shows but really make sure they're quality shows. They should act like HBO in short.

gonzo41 6y ago
I totally agree with you. I feel as if netflix doesn't press their writers and the creatives enough to develop a full arc for a story. It seems like every shows' got an idea. And then once they get funding they start thinking through the details. I know it would be a lot of ask and probably expensive but people write novels all the time. Netflix could break the mold by looking for stories that fit something like 24 chapters / episodes and having a complete 'thing' at the end of it. The could then have the arc of the story to work with and just produce three seasons of content to spread the risk.
- jarjoura 6y ago
  I don't think any platform will fund a creative project without a stated beginning, middle and end. It's just that Netflix pays upfront for the idea, so the writers and directors don't have control over when to finish the story. If they're told to space this idea out over 5 seasons and paid by the season, what else can they do except to live the dream of making original content and hope for the best?
klmadfejno 6y ago
Why do people like the Mandalorian? It's really just not that good. The action sequences are very low quality. The writing is fairly mundane faux-gritty tropes. Would people like it if it didn't have the star wars backdrop? Does the star wars backdrop even make that much sense? I know this one won't bother many people but I particularly hated their depiction of the bounty hunter droid, which was orders of magnitude more competent than any other droid in the universe. Droids in star wars aren't immaculate AI like other Sci Fi. I hated that they used this as a plot point.
- pmlnr 6y ago
  It has that feeling. It's a western. It's simple. And it's awesome too look at it: the way it was shoot - with the huge screens as background - it feels and looks REAL, so finally it's not CGI. Augmented reality, one could say.
  - klmadfejno 6y ago
    To each their own. I thought it was a really poorly executed western. The episode where he does the prison break was particularly shoddy. The unreal stuff was cool, but that doesn't seem like an important factor.
- musingsole 6y ago
  I share your questions on the show's quality. I ultimately chalked many things that made me tilt my head to some idea of the show's 'style' and decided to re-suspend my disbelief, but still. On the bounty hunder droid...what about it came across as an immaculate AI? It had machine-precision with firearms and apparently a pretty interesting social-relationships module, but the re-training montage showed a lot of it's limitations.
  - klmadfejno 6y ago
    > It had machine-precision with firearms Mostly this. Star wars droids don't have machine precision. They don't 360 no scope everyone in a room and easily win 10:1 battles without taking any cover. The bounty hunter droid is far more competent than any human in a fight in this series, which feels wrong given these mandalorians are supposed to be legendary bounty hunters or something. I'm sure someone's ready to jump in with extended universe stuff to prove me wrong, but let's caveat that by noting Luke nullifies black holes in that series, so the similarities between power levels are hardly apples to apples https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMQUTOh_AsQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMQUTOh_AsQ
    - dhagz 6y ago
      I think this is one of those "rule of cool" things. Though I will say, sure IG-88 may have been better at shooting accurately, but his response to being surrounded in the first episode was to initiate a self-destruct. Whereas you have Mando showing some higher-level thinking and turns an "unwinnable" fight into a winnable one.
boredumb 6y ago
Cancelled my subscription a while back and I honestly enjoy watching tubi, crackle or vhscast more.
hcarvalhoalves 6y ago
> Seriously, they should fund less shows but really make sure they're quality shows. They should act like HBO in short. I doubt they would, it's seems opposite to their business model - try to beat the odds w/ lots of content and A/B testing everything. Netflix seems to be sitting in an awkward position between YouTube and HBO. They need to pick winners to compete w/ HBO, and production/licensing costs have to be cheaper to compete w/ random YouTuber producing hours of content.

gonzo41 6y ago

I totally agree with you. I feel as if netflix doesn't press their writers and the creatives enough to develop a full arc for a story. It seems like every shows' got an idea. And then once they get funding they start thinking through the details. I know it would be a lot of ask and probably expensive but people write novels all the time. Netflix could break the mold by looking for stories that fit something like 24 chapters / episodes and having a complete 'thing' at the end of it. The could then have the arc of the story to work with and just produce three seasons of content to spread the risk.

jarjoura 6y ago
I don't think any platform will fund a creative project without a stated beginning, middle and end. It's just that Netflix pays upfront for the idea, so the writers and directors don't have control over when to finish the story. If they're told to space this idea out over 5 seasons and paid by the season, what else can they do except to live the dream of making original content and hope for the best?

klmadfejno 6y ago

Why do people like the Mandalorian? It's really just not that good. The action sequences are very low quality. The writing is fairly mundane faux-gritty tropes. Would people like it if it didn't have the star wars backdrop? Does the star wars backdrop even make that much sense? I know this one won't bother many people but I particularly hated their depiction of the bounty hunter droid, which was orders of magnitude more competent than any other droid in the universe. Droids in star wars aren't immaculate AI like other Sci Fi. I hated that they used this as a plot point.

pmlnr 6y ago
It has that feeling. It's a western. It's simple. And it's awesome too look at it: the way it was shoot - with the huge screens as background - it feels and looks REAL, so finally it's not CGI. Augmented reality, one could say.
- klmadfejno 6y ago
  To each their own. I thought it was a really poorly executed western. The episode where he does the prison break was particularly shoddy. The unreal stuff was cool, but that doesn't seem like an important factor.
musingsole 6y ago
I share your questions on the show's quality. I ultimately chalked many things that made me tilt my head to some idea of the show's 'style' and decided to re-suspend my disbelief, but still. On the bounty hunder droid...what about it came across as an immaculate AI? It had machine-precision with firearms and apparently a pretty interesting social-relationships module, but the re-training montage showed a lot of it's limitations.
- klmadfejno 6y ago
  > It had machine-precision with firearms Mostly this. Star wars droids don't have machine precision. They don't 360 no scope everyone in a room and easily win 10:1 battles without taking any cover. The bounty hunter droid is far more competent than any human in a fight in this series, which feels wrong given these mandalorians are supposed to be legendary bounty hunters or something. I'm sure someone's ready to jump in with extended universe stuff to prove me wrong, but let's caveat that by noting Luke nullifies black holes in that series, so the similarities between power levels are hardly apples to apples https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMQUTOh_AsQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMQUTOh_AsQ
  - dhagz 6y ago
    I think this is one of those "rule of cool" things. Though I will say, sure IG-88 may have been better at shooting accurately, but his response to being surrounded in the first episode was to initiate a self-destruct. Whereas you have Mando showing some higher-level thinking and turns an "unwinnable" fight into a winnable one.

boredumb 6y ago

Cancelled my subscription a while back and I honestly enjoy watching tubi, crackle or vhscast more.

hcarvalhoalves 6y ago

> Seriously, they should fund less shows but really make sure they're quality shows. They should act like HBO in short. I doubt they would, it's seems opposite to their business model - try to beat the odds w/ lots of content and A/B testing everything. Netflix seems to be sitting in an awkward position between YouTube and HBO. They need to pick winners to compete w/ HBO, and production/licensing costs have to be cheaper to compete w/ random YouTuber producing hours of content.