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> You can't subscribe to Spotify without part of that money going to Rogan. Can't you? Rogan's compensation isn't based on Spotify's total profits, and if you

> You can't subscribe to Spotify without part of that money going to Rogan. Can't you? Rogan's compensation isn't based on Spotify's total profits, and if you don't listen to him, you won't be contributing to his audience size either, and Spotify will be able to see that in their metrics. If tomorrow Spotify gains 100 million new users, that then never listen to a single Rogan episode, how would that increase Rogan's compensation?

ceejayoz 6y ago
Are you genuinely unable to see the difference between the two revenue models? I'm really not all that interested in absurd hypotheticals. If I buy a Coke at my grocery store, Coke's getting some of that money. If I buy a Pepsi, Coke gets none of that. I can boycott specific companies while still buying groceries, and again, opting out of food is an issue. If Rogan were an optional premium paid add-on channel on Spotify, the two would be far more comparable.
- rbecker 6y ago
  > If I buy a Coke at my grocery store, Coke's getting some of that money. If I buy a Pepsi, Coke gets none of that. And if you subscribe to Spotify but don't listen to Rogan, Rogan also gets none of that. If you believe otherwise, please explain how.
  - ceejayoz 6y ago
    > And if you subscribe to Spotify but don't listen to Rogan, Rogan also gets none of that. If you believe otherwise, please explain how. Rogan's not being paid per stream like song artists are. If I pay for Spotify, my $10/month revenue goes to pay their expenses. One of those expenses is Rogan's $100M contract. The mere act of shopping at the grocery store doesn't send money to Coca-Cola. I have to specifically buy one of their products.
    - rbecker 6y ago
      And if you shop at a grocery store, your money goes to pay their expenses. One of those expenses if stocking Coca-Cola. See how easy it is to make it seem like you contribute to something if you join all capital flows into one big pool? You have to explain how Rogan would get more money if you subscribe to Spotify, than if you didn't subscribe.

ceejayoz 6y ago

Are you genuinely unable to see the difference between the two revenue models? I'm really not all that interested in absurd hypotheticals. If I buy a Coke at my grocery store, Coke's getting some of that money. If I buy a Pepsi, Coke gets none of that. I can boycott specific companies while still buying groceries, and again, opting out of food is an issue. If Rogan were an optional premium paid add-on channel on Spotify, the two would be far more comparable.

rbecker 6y ago
> If I buy a Coke at my grocery store, Coke's getting some of that money. If I buy a Pepsi, Coke gets none of that. And if you subscribe to Spotify but don't listen to Rogan, Rogan also gets none of that. If you believe otherwise, please explain how.
- ceejayoz 6y ago
  > And if you subscribe to Spotify but don't listen to Rogan, Rogan also gets none of that. If you believe otherwise, please explain how. Rogan's not being paid per stream like song artists are. If I pay for Spotify, my $10/month revenue goes to pay their expenses. One of those expenses is Rogan's $100M contract. The mere act of shopping at the grocery store doesn't send money to Coca-Cola. I have to specifically buy one of their products.
  - rbecker 6y ago
    And if you shop at a grocery store, your money goes to pay their expenses. One of those expenses if stocking Coca-Cola. See how easy it is to make it seem like you contribute to something if you join all capital flows into one big pool? You have to explain how Rogan would get more money if you subscribe to Spotify, than if you didn't subscribe.