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I remain optimistic that the human race will figure things out before we completely decimate all ocean life and before we make half of the planet inhospitable.

I remain optimistic that the human race will figure things out before we completely decimate all ocean life and before we make half of the planet inhospitable. However, I am certain the powers that be will not take any action until MAJOR death waves in the western world such as the destruction of a major picturesque city from a freak weather event. Before that, I expect we will lose: * Polar bears * Wild Tuna * Wild Salmon * Arctic sea ice * Greenland ice shelf The last 2 will cause a substantial sea level rise, and decimate places like Bangladesh causing tens of millions of climate refugees that we will be dealing for the next century. The western world will just shrug and build seawalls kind of like you see on The Expanse: * https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TnhgVnv-iVM/XfQ660L31xI/AAAAAAAAMyU/efdINH2zGiwPT79ZyoxCOZcAK2vvw0qRwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/seawalls.jpg https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TnhgVnv-iVM/XfQ660L31xI/AAAAAAAAM... * https://www.reddit.com/r/TheExpanse/comments/f05ais/i_love_the_subtler_details_about_the_universe_in/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheExpanse/comments/f05ais/i_love_t...

fnord123 6y ago
If I understand your position correctly, you are optimistic that the human race will figure things out once a huge number of [poor] people are killed?
- monsieurbanana 6y ago
  That's a very uncharitable view of his comment.
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MrDresden 6y ago
As someone who has direct connections into a part of the research community looking at the sustainability of fishing in the north Atlantic in regards to the real and ongoing acidification of the ocean as well as the policy making over the last few decades I would say that your optimism is misplaced. There is really nothing being done at the scale needed to avert catastrophic collapse of the ocean food chains.

fnord123 6y ago

If I understand your position correctly, you are optimistic that the human race will figure things out once a huge number of [poor] people are killed?

monsieurbanana 6y ago
That's a very uncharitable view of his comment.

082349872349872 6y ago

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MrDresden 6y ago

As someone who has direct connections into a part of the research community looking at the sustainability of fishing in the north Atlantic in regards to the real and ongoing acidification of the ocean as well as the policy making over the last few decades I would say that your optimism is misplaced. There is really nothing being done at the scale needed to avert catastrophic collapse of the ocean food chains.