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Which company is this? 30% is a ton. In senior roles, getting 10-15% raises considered a good “promotion”. 30% cut in pay would feel like taking two years backw

Which company is this? 30% is a ton. In senior roles, getting 10-15% raises considered a good “promotion”. 30% cut in pay would feel like taking two years backwards...

nrmitchi 6y ago
I don't want to call them out explicitly, but they're one of the largest all remote companies, and this information is ready available on their online (and googleable) remote compensation calculator.
- OliverGilan 6y ago
  This is definitely what I would consider as an edge case (at least I'd assume so). I agree that 30% seems aggressive but something like 10-15% seems more normal imo.
  - nrmitchi 6y ago
    I'm not sure I'd agree. From personal experience speaking with larger companies (not FAANG, but larger "start-up"), I was always seeing an even larger difference. Think "~150-170 in Austin, 225-250 in SF". You may want to knock my negotiation skills, and perhaps you have a point there that I could have pushed their initial non-SF numbers up, but these were at earlier-stage discussions and sharing those numbers seemed "reasonable" to them. And this was Austin, a city which the aforementioned salary calculator only gives a -20% "adjustment". Note that even that 30% is for a "large" AR city. Anyone else in that state is given a 37(!)% reduction. In my opinion, which I've been trying to wrangle into a coherent blog post over the last couple of days, any adjustments like this should be an absolute-dollar-number figure. Percentages don't make sense at _either_ extreme. A 60k/year position with a 20% "move to SF" upward adjustment? That is unlikely to even cover the change in rent. 400k/year with a 20% adjustment? Calling that "cost of living" is bonkers.
guessmyname 6y ago
> Which company is this? 30% is a ton. In senior roles, getting 10-15% raises considered a good “promotion”. 30% cut in pay would feel like taking two years backwards... @nrmitchi is probably talking about GitLab and their “Compensation Calculator” [1]. [1] https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/total-rewards/compensation/compensation-calculator/calculator/ https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/total-rewards/compensation...

Which company is this? 30% is a ton. In senior roles, getting 10-15% raises considered a good “promotion”. 30% cut in pay would feel like taking two years backwards...

nrmitchi 6y ago

I don't want to call them out explicitly, but they're one of the largest all remote companies, and this information is ready available on their online (and googleable) remote compensation calculator.

OliverGilan 6y ago
This is definitely what I would consider as an edge case (at least I'd assume so). I agree that 30% seems aggressive but something like 10-15% seems more normal imo.
- nrmitchi 6y ago
  I'm not sure I'd agree. From personal experience speaking with larger companies (not FAANG, but larger "start-up"), I was always seeing an even larger difference. Think "~150-170 in Austin, 225-250 in SF". You may want to knock my negotiation skills, and perhaps you have a point there that I could have pushed their initial non-SF numbers up, but these were at earlier-stage discussions and sharing those numbers seemed "reasonable" to them. And this was Austin, a city which the aforementioned salary calculator only gives a -20% "adjustment". Note that even that 30% is for a "large" AR city. Anyone else in that state is given a 37(!)% reduction. In my opinion, which I've been trying to wrangle into a coherent blog post over the last couple of days, any adjustments like this should be an absolute-dollar-number figure. Percentages don't make sense at _either_ extreme. A 60k/year position with a 20% "move to SF" upward adjustment? That is unlikely to even cover the change in rent. 400k/year with a 20% adjustment? Calling that "cost of living" is bonkers.

guessmyname 6y ago

> Which company is this? 30% is a ton. In senior roles, getting 10-15% raises considered a good “promotion”. 30% cut in pay would feel like taking two years backwards... @nrmitchi is probably talking about GitLab and their “Compensation Calculator” [1]. [1] https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/total-rewards/compensation/compensation-calculator/calculator/ https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/total-rewards/compensation...