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Ahh yes the libertarian boogey man, unions. So you picked up a book or pamphlet about anti-union tropes and spewed them out here. Let's refute these statements
by yardie 6y ago
Ahh yes the libertarian boogey man, unions. So you picked up a book or pamphlet about anti-union tropes and spewed them out here. Let's refute these statements 1 by 1:
- Voting on stuff monthly? Seems to be a really active union. Must be getting ready to strike and if that's the case why wouldn't they check to make sure they have broad support for one. Also, no one is literally holding a gun to your head. You can vote, vote no, or not vote.
- Don't know what union this is but dues I've seen are 1-2%. Whoever is getting paid $5000/week I'd like to join that union, too. Fine, maybe it's a really good union that charges 5%. I'd still want in because someone is taking home $2000/week.
- The word is seniority and this has nothing to do with unions. It's how factories from the very beginning have doled out promotions. Job for life and all that. Since most people don't want to be working the shit stirring tank how do you get promoted out the shit stirring tank? A simple metric the factories and offices came up and the union workers agreed to.
- Unions don't control this. But if someone gets fired for underperforming you know who's going to get a labor lawyer? The worker who's been paying dues to collectively have a lawyer on retainer. You see if I get fired, I get told I was a poor performer with no evidence. If the worker in the union gets fired there lawyer is going to want to see the evidence. And you'd be amazed at how poorly most companies document this. See the union doesn't keep someone from being fired. But it does make sure the firing is fair.
- ericd 6y agoI personally really like at-will employment. I don’t want to work for a boss that doesn’t want me for whatever reason. Life is too short. And if you’re a software engineer, it’s usually not hard to be frugal enough to save up enough to have the luxury of saying that. We really need country-wide social safety nets, not attempts to force companies to retain people they don’t want.
- yardie 6y agoI enjoy at-will employment as well. But I’m young, healthy, and don’t do manual labour. But there are lots of shitty jobs out there with really great union negotiated health plans. I’ve heard over and over again how people stay in particular bad jobs simply because they or a family member need healthcare. For some it’s a matter of life or death and very much worth fighting.