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I'd say that's regressing yes? When you can't find the road to the future, retreat to the past. Re-live the glory days so to speak.

tpmx 6y ago
In a way, yeah, definitely. Perhaps it's a bad sign for Apple, but good for consumers. It's a solid (and imho beautiful) design that works really well mechanically (iirc). I'm treading into parts I don't know very well here, so treat this as a question: Is this perhaps a part of the de-Ive-ification process?
- wruza 6y ago
  Hope so, I still miss my skeuomorphism so much.
jedberg 6y ago
It's regressing back to a superior design. The hard edges are easier to hold, and also, you can rest the phone on it's edge without stand. I miss being able to rest my phone on it's edge.
- tpmx 6y ago
  And the edges aren't MBP-sharp (beautiful but painful). Looks like an edge radius of maybe 0.5 mm instead of 0.1 mm or so.
- wmeredith 6y ago
  This. I hate the lozenge designs of the last several iPhones. They are slick in a bad way.
2muchcoffeeman 6y ago
You interact with the screen. Why does the design matter that much? What exactly is innovative about the rectangles from other companies?
- tpmx 6y ago
  You also hold the unit quite a lot. The feeling matters.
  - CamperBob2 6y ago
    Yes, it does, which is why the iPhone 4 was a terrible design. Pull the phone out of your pocket, and there's a 3-in-4 chance that you're "holding it wrong" right off the bat because the front and back feel the same. No, thanks. Every surface on a phone needs to feel at least subtly different.
    - tpmx 6y ago
      I haven't upgraded since iPhone X. That one doesn't feel different wrt front/back at all. Does iPhone 11 feel different in this regard?
      - mattweinberg 6y ago
        Yes, the 11 has kind of a “matte” slightly textured back. It’s definitely easy to determine which is which just by feel.
    - gwd 6y ago
      The glass front and the metal back always felt different to me... and in any case, the very first thing I did is look for the home button with my thumb.
  - 2muchcoffeeman 6y ago
    This is still a one time design cost though. And nothing about it means that you should iterate the design every other year. Materials maybe.
mensetmanusman 6y ago
It’s cyclic fashion.

tpmx 6y ago

In a way, yeah, definitely. Perhaps it's a bad sign for Apple, but good for consumers. It's a solid (and imho beautiful) design that works really well mechanically (iirc). I'm treading into parts I don't know very well here, so treat this as a question: Is this perhaps a part of the de-Ive-ification process?

wruza 6y ago
Hope so, I still miss my skeuomorphism so much.

jedberg 6y ago

It's regressing back to a superior design. The hard edges are easier to hold, and also, you can rest the phone on it's edge without stand. I miss being able to rest my phone on it's edge.

tpmx 6y ago
And the edges aren't MBP-sharp (beautiful but painful). Looks like an edge radius of maybe 0.5 mm instead of 0.1 mm or so.
wmeredith 6y ago
This. I hate the lozenge designs of the last several iPhones. They are slick in a bad way.

2muchcoffeeman 6y ago

You interact with the screen. Why does the design matter that much? What exactly is innovative about the rectangles from other companies?

tpmx 6y ago
You also hold the unit quite a lot. The feeling matters.
- CamperBob2 6y ago
  Yes, it does, which is why the iPhone 4 was a terrible design. Pull the phone out of your pocket, and there's a 3-in-4 chance that you're "holding it wrong" right off the bat because the front and back feel the same. No, thanks. Every surface on a phone needs to feel at least subtly different.
  - tpmx 6y ago
    I haven't upgraded since iPhone X. That one doesn't feel different wrt front/back at all. Does iPhone 11 feel different in this regard?
    - mattweinberg 6y ago
      Yes, the 11 has kind of a “matte” slightly textured back. It’s definitely easy to determine which is which just by feel.
  - gwd 6y ago
    The glass front and the metal back always felt different to me... and in any case, the very first thing I did is look for the home button with my thumb.
- 2muchcoffeeman 6y ago
  This is still a one time design cost though. And nothing about it means that you should iterate the design every other year. Materials maybe.

mensetmanusman 6y ago

It’s cyclic fashion.