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Curious how much market share this homepod line has. My gut feel is that Amazon has the lion's share, followed by Google and everyone else has crumbs at the bot

Curious how much market share this homepod line has. My gut feel is that Amazon has the lion's share, followed by Google and everyone else has crumbs at the bottom.

ogre_codes 6y ago
Siri lives in on your wrist, in your pocket, or even in your ears with AirPods. It's a pretty significant difference. When you can access Siri anywhere, you only need to put speakers out where you want music. Google and Amazon need to work harder to get presence so they push them out using aggressive pricing.
- mmastrac 6y ago
  I have the same options with the Google assistant/Chromecast etc. That doesn't answer the question of what the homepod line's market share is.
  - ogre_codes 6y ago
    "Speaker" market share is irrelevant when 30-50% of iPhone owners have speakers in their ear or on their wrist.
    - mmastrac 6y ago
      You appear to be intentionally obfuscating for whatever reason. I found something from 2019 that appears to show Apple in a distant third place, with Amazon as #1 in the USA and some supporting research showing similar trends world-wide. [1][2] So yeah, as I expected it's Amazon's game, Google trailing but a strong presence, and Apple virtually missing from the race. [1] https://www.macrumors.com/2019/08/08/homepod-smart-speaker-market-share/ https://www.macrumors.com/2019/08/08/homepod-smart-speaker-m... [2] https://macdailynews.com/2020/02/13/apple-homepod-took-4-7-share-of-global-smart-speaker-market-in-2019/ https://macdailynews.com/2020/02/13/apple-homepod-took-4-7-s...
- mullingitover 6y ago
  It's true, I have so many places that I can set timers. Beyond that piece of functionality, Siri is still a very developmentally disabled assistant and has never proven useful in my experience.
Hamuko 6y ago
Globally or in the US? Because they only sell the HomePod in a handful of countries.
millstone 6y ago
I think it is best to understand this as two different markets. Amazon Echo and Google Home devices are mainly about their smart assistants. Homepod is for music, and it competes more directly with Sonos devices.
- lmedinas 6y ago
  after today's presentation i'm pretty sure that HomePod Mini is the Apple answer to Amazon Echo and Google Home. Maybe the HomePod (original) can compete with the Sonos One or Five at sound level but not in terms of features people are looking for listening music such as: virtually all music streaming services available, integration with all the remaining Sonos products for Home cinema or for Home sound system. To me Homepod Mini is after the home assistant market. The HomePod (original) well it seemed like a shot in the dark now it will most likely get the Homepod mini features.
tootie 6y ago
I also think the market is pretty saturated if not about to taper. Amazon and Google have been all over this market for years and there's just no big value prop. 99% of the use is just as a smart speaker. I'd bet very few do home automation. Some are doing a bit of voice commerce if they're bought into the Amazon ecosystem. Apple doesn't offer much beyond cool product design. If someone was going to bust open this space it would be Spotify.

Curious how much market share this homepod line has. My gut feel is that Amazon has the lion's share, followed by Google and everyone else has crumbs at the bottom.

ogre_codes 6y ago

Siri lives in on your wrist, in your pocket, or even in your ears with AirPods. It's a pretty significant difference. When you can access Siri anywhere, you only need to put speakers out where you want music. Google and Amazon need to work harder to get presence so they push them out using aggressive pricing.

mmastrac 6y ago
I have the same options with the Google assistant/Chromecast etc. That doesn't answer the question of what the homepod line's market share is.
- ogre_codes 6y ago
  "Speaker" market share is irrelevant when 30-50% of iPhone owners have speakers in their ear or on their wrist.
  - mmastrac 6y ago
    You appear to be intentionally obfuscating for whatever reason. I found something from 2019 that appears to show Apple in a distant third place, with Amazon as #1 in the USA and some supporting research showing similar trends world-wide. [1][2] So yeah, as I expected it's Amazon's game, Google trailing but a strong presence, and Apple virtually missing from the race. [1] https://www.macrumors.com/2019/08/08/homepod-smart-speaker-market-share/ https://www.macrumors.com/2019/08/08/homepod-smart-speaker-m... [2] https://macdailynews.com/2020/02/13/apple-homepod-took-4-7-share-of-global-smart-speaker-market-in-2019/ https://macdailynews.com/2020/02/13/apple-homepod-took-4-7-s...
mullingitover 6y ago
It's true, I have so many places that I can set timers. Beyond that piece of functionality, Siri is still a very developmentally disabled assistant and has never proven useful in my experience.

Hamuko 6y ago

Globally or in the US? Because they only sell the HomePod in a handful of countries.

millstone 6y ago

I think it is best to understand this as two different markets. Amazon Echo and Google Home devices are mainly about their smart assistants. Homepod is for music, and it competes more directly with Sonos devices.

lmedinas 6y ago
after today's presentation i'm pretty sure that HomePod Mini is the Apple answer to Amazon Echo and Google Home. Maybe the HomePod (original) can compete with the Sonos One or Five at sound level but not in terms of features people are looking for listening music such as: virtually all music streaming services available, integration with all the remaining Sonos products for Home cinema or for Home sound system. To me Homepod Mini is after the home assistant market. The HomePod (original) well it seemed like a shot in the dark now it will most likely get the Homepod mini features.

tootie 6y ago

I also think the market is pretty saturated if not about to taper. Amazon and Google have been all over this market for years and there's just no big value prop. 99% of the use is just as a smart speaker. I'd bet very few do home automation. Some are doing a bit of voice commerce if they're bought into the Amazon ecosystem. Apple doesn't offer much beyond cool product design. If someone was going to bust open this space it would be Spotify.