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True. MagSafe is what got me. Apple is genius in how they keep pushing accessories part of the ecosystem.

Spivak 6y ago
They must be really confident with their drop protection because I don't know a single person who doesn't have their phone in a case.
- justusthane 6y ago
  The MagSafe works through supported cases.
  - throw03172019 6y ago
    I was a bit confused. Does it require a case to work? I’ve never used a case before and I don’t plan on starting.
    - colejohnson66 6y ago
      No it doesn’t. It’s magnets built into the phone.
- garydevenay 6y ago
  I don't and never have had my iPhone in a case (iPhone user since 3g)
  - rootusrootus 6y ago
    It must be my dry skin, but I cannot use my iPhone without a case. It's so damn slippery, it slides right through my fingers if I'm not careful to keep a death grip on it.
    - TillE 6y ago
      My limited personal experience is that the iPhone 6 was absurdly slippery (pretty much required a case), but the iPhone XS is fine.
- ssijak 6y ago
  I never use cases. But then again, I break every phone eventually. My iPhone 8 has broken glass on both sides and a broken camera glass but it works well apart from that, so I was waiting for this announcement to get a new one.
  - Xavdidtheshadow 6y ago
    Presented without comment: I always have my phone in a case and have never broken anything physical on any phone. My launch-day iPhone 8 still looks great.
    - jedberg 6y ago
      Same. I don't even power up the phone until the case and screen protector on. Even my five+ year old phones are in perfect condition, despite their primary users being my toddlers now.
    - SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
      On my last phone (Galaxy S8+) I was able to break both the back glass and front glass while it was in a Spigen case (two separate incidents). First time I broke the glass on any phone I've owned. I've moved up to an Otterbox now on my S20+ as I'm not going to let that happen again.
- krzyk 6y ago
  I never used a phone in a case because I think cases make phones look uglier. And also I'm careful with my phones, I dropped my phones several times and only once the glass shattered. Although I don't use iPhones (Androids).
- soneca 6y ago
  I never use cases. From the old indestructible Nokias, passing through a Sony Ericsson, a Nokia Windows Phone, and then the Moto G4. Until my previous phone. My previous phone was a Moto G6, with glass in the back. In the second day, it fell from my lap and the back-glass broke completely, but stood in place with glass dust all over. I had to use a case (that is shipped with the phone, probably predicting this). I was pissed, always hated. All of that because of a useless aesthetic product decision. Then I bought the latest iPhone SE, my first iPhone ever. I use it without a case and it fell, from various heights, probably more than 30 times now. The screen is intact, just a few scratches in the corners. I am pretty happy about it. Edit: just in case anyone wants to know, I don’t like cases solely because it makes the phone larger. The “how easily and comfortably it fits in my pockets” is my main criteria. I don’t care about aesthetics much, consequently I also don’t care if my phone has scratches on its sides. That’s one reason I changed to the iPhone SE (small phone + great chip + privacy considerations). I would only ever consider buying the iPhone Mini out of these iPhone 12 line.
  - signal11 6y ago
    I didn't use a case for my iPhone 5, but it was very easy to grip. The 6 and later models, including the 11s and the SE 2020, have rounded edges that to me are really slippery and easy to drop. The 12 seems to be similar to the 5 (and the iPad Pro), so let's see if it's any better to use without a case.
    - gwd 6y ago
      > have rounded edges that to me are really slippery and easy to drop. And easier to crack the screen when it lands on the edge. I'm pretty sure I didn't drop my 6S more times than I dropped my iPhone 5 or 4S, but I cracked my 6S screen three times, whereas I never cracked my 5 or 4S screens at all.
  - dwighttk 6y ago
    My iPhones have regularly gotten hot enough I didn’t want to use them without a case. (5s through 11Max Pro (whatever this one I have is called))
- elondaits 6y ago
  I never used a case with my SE. i just try not to drop it. I had to get a case for my XS, reluctantly, because the camera is not level with the body... so I was afraid of scratching it, plus the phone didn’t lay flat on a table. The XS was made for use with a cover, not an option.
- pkroll 6y ago
  I'll add to the anecdotes: my iPhone 6 plus has no case, and looks like it was pulled out of a box a few hours ago. I don't understand the whole case universe/how people can drop their expensive phones so consistently.
  - simonklitj 6y ago
    I’m just really clumsy, honestly.
- romanows 6y ago
  Anecdotally, I tend to drop my phones from chair-level monthly, with no case, without issue. I dropped my Pixel 2 two stories onto concrete and only damaged the back glass cosmetically and the phone microphone slightly. Used it for another 4 months until the Pixel 4a finally came out. I've always assumed cases were overrated but haven never looked for any statistics.
- intrasight 6y ago
  Same. I'm not klutz, but at least 4x per year I drop my phone in a way that it really wouldn't like without the case.
  - dmix 6y ago
    I'm a klutz and even with a case I break my glass every other month or so. The glass repair guy down the street must love me. If it really protects the phone like they said it will (even 2x, not 4x) then this would be a revolutionary upgrade for me.
- crehn 6y ago
  I never use any protection on my iPhones. I find cases ugly and bulky; I want to enjoy the device's feel, design and engineering. The iPhone 8 with it's full-glass enclosing has been surprisingly sturdy, surviving even rough drops with only a scratch. Plus if it breaks, I get two replacements with AppleCare, and the process is ridiculously smooth.
- dan-robertson 6y ago
  I used a case briefly but stopped (after it was damaged when I had precariously balanced it about 2m above the ground to use it as a torch and then knocked it to the tiles below). I don’t really suffer from the prevalence of broken screens. Am I just careful or is if from people with loose pockets running around or moving some other way (eg skateboarding)? I occasionally drop it from my pocket onto not-too-hard ground without damage and I bent the corner a bit dropping it on tarmac when I was drunk once but otherwise it’s unscathed. Maybe I’m just super lucky.
- stinky613 6y ago
  I have an iPad Pro with the Magic Keyboard. The magnetic attachment is fantastic. I can hold the palmrest on the keyboard, turn the whole thing upside down, and shake it without the iPad falling off. From my first day of using them together all I could think was "I want this connection method on every tablet and phone" Also, btw, the iPhone 12 MagSafe doesn't prevent you from using a case.
- mlindner 6y ago
  Never used a case never broken a phone. I don't get why everyone is so butter fingers.
- can16358p 6y ago
  I never used a case. Only once my iPhone catapulted from my pocket once and the screen was broken, but still, that repair wasn't worth enough for me to use an ugly protector that kills the whole design of the iPhone.
- csmiller 6y ago
  I never use cases, I hate how dirt gets in the gap between the phone and the case.
- thirdsun 6y ago
  Another user without a case reporting in. I udnerstand that people try to protect their expensive devices, but it seems absurd to me to hide a beautiful device like an iPhone (particularly the 4-5 as well as the new 12 generation) in some form of mediocre wrapper. However when carrying the phone in my pocket or bag I always use a fabric sleeve with microfiber inner lining. To me this approach is the best of both worlds: The pure device when in use, but protection when carrying it around - Plus, instead of having to put the device down on hard surfaces the sleeve serves as a soft bed for the phone. And the microfiber lining keeps the display clean. All my past iPhones looked pretty much pristine when I sold them on ebay.
- gwd 6y ago
  I didn't use a case for my iPhone 3g. Or 4s. Or 5s. Dropped them all several times, never had more than dings on the metal edges. Did the same for my 6S, and cracked the screen three times. The third it cracked time I upgraded to an iPhone XS; but my wife insisted I get a case, and it was hard to argue against. I'm really glad they've moved back to the (apparently) more robust form factor of having squarish metal edges. I look forward to not having to use a case the next time I update.

They must be really confident with their drop protection because I don't know a single person who doesn't have their phone in a case.

justusthane 6y ago
The MagSafe works through supported cases.
- throw03172019 6y ago
  I was a bit confused. Does it require a case to work? I’ve never used a case before and I don’t plan on starting.
  - colejohnson66 6y ago
    No it doesn’t. It’s magnets built into the phone.
garydevenay 6y ago
I don't and never have had my iPhone in a case (iPhone user since 3g)
- rootusrootus 6y ago
  It must be my dry skin, but I cannot use my iPhone without a case. It's so damn slippery, it slides right through my fingers if I'm not careful to keep a death grip on it.
  - TillE 6y ago
    My limited personal experience is that the iPhone 6 was absurdly slippery (pretty much required a case), but the iPhone XS is fine.
ssijak 6y ago
I never use cases. But then again, I break every phone eventually. My iPhone 8 has broken glass on both sides and a broken camera glass but it works well apart from that, so I was waiting for this announcement to get a new one.
- Xavdidtheshadow 6y ago
  Presented without comment: I always have my phone in a case and have never broken anything physical on any phone. My launch-day iPhone 8 still looks great.
  - jedberg 6y ago
    Same. I don't even power up the phone until the case and screen protector on. Even my five+ year old phones are in perfect condition, despite their primary users being my toddlers now.
  - SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
    On my last phone (Galaxy S8+) I was able to break both the back glass and front glass while it was in a Spigen case (two separate incidents). First time I broke the glass on any phone I've owned. I've moved up to an Otterbox now on my S20+ as I'm not going to let that happen again.
krzyk 6y ago
I never used a phone in a case because I think cases make phones look uglier. And also I'm careful with my phones, I dropped my phones several times and only once the glass shattered. Although I don't use iPhones (Androids).
soneca 6y ago
I never use cases. From the old indestructible Nokias, passing through a Sony Ericsson, a Nokia Windows Phone, and then the Moto G4. Until my previous phone. My previous phone was a Moto G6, with glass in the back. In the second day, it fell from my lap and the back-glass broke completely, but stood in place with glass dust all over. I had to use a case (that is shipped with the phone, probably predicting this). I was pissed, always hated. All of that because of a useless aesthetic product decision. Then I bought the latest iPhone SE, my first iPhone ever. I use it without a case and it fell, from various heights, probably more than 30 times now. The screen is intact, just a few scratches in the corners. I am pretty happy about it. Edit: just in case anyone wants to know, I don’t like cases solely because it makes the phone larger. The “how easily and comfortably it fits in my pockets” is my main criteria. I don’t care about aesthetics much, consequently I also don’t care if my phone has scratches on its sides. That’s one reason I changed to the iPhone SE (small phone + great chip + privacy considerations). I would only ever consider buying the iPhone Mini out of these iPhone 12 line.
- signal11 6y ago
  I didn't use a case for my iPhone 5, but it was very easy to grip. The 6 and later models, including the 11s and the SE 2020, have rounded edges that to me are really slippery and easy to drop. The 12 seems to be similar to the 5 (and the iPad Pro), so let's see if it's any better to use without a case.
  - gwd 6y ago
    > have rounded edges that to me are really slippery and easy to drop. And easier to crack the screen when it lands on the edge. I'm pretty sure I didn't drop my 6S more times than I dropped my iPhone 5 or 4S, but I cracked my 6S screen three times, whereas I never cracked my 5 or 4S screens at all.
- dwighttk 6y ago
  My iPhones have regularly gotten hot enough I didn’t want to use them without a case. (5s through 11Max Pro (whatever this one I have is called))
elondaits 6y ago
I never used a case with my SE. i just try not to drop it. I had to get a case for my XS, reluctantly, because the camera is not level with the body... so I was afraid of scratching it, plus the phone didn’t lay flat on a table. The XS was made for use with a cover, not an option.
pkroll 6y ago
I'll add to the anecdotes: my iPhone 6 plus has no case, and looks like it was pulled out of a box a few hours ago. I don't understand the whole case universe/how people can drop their expensive phones so consistently.
- simonklitj 6y ago
  I’m just really clumsy, honestly.
romanows 6y ago
Anecdotally, I tend to drop my phones from chair-level monthly, with no case, without issue. I dropped my Pixel 2 two stories onto concrete and only damaged the back glass cosmetically and the phone microphone slightly. Used it for another 4 months until the Pixel 4a finally came out. I've always assumed cases were overrated but haven never looked for any statistics.
intrasight 6y ago
Same. I'm not klutz, but at least 4x per year I drop my phone in a way that it really wouldn't like without the case.
- dmix 6y ago
  I'm a klutz and even with a case I break my glass every other month or so. The glass repair guy down the street must love me. If it really protects the phone like they said it will (even 2x, not 4x) then this would be a revolutionary upgrade for me.
crehn 6y ago
I never use any protection on my iPhones. I find cases ugly and bulky; I want to enjoy the device's feel, design and engineering. The iPhone 8 with it's full-glass enclosing has been surprisingly sturdy, surviving even rough drops with only a scratch. Plus if it breaks, I get two replacements with AppleCare, and the process is ridiculously smooth.
dan-robertson 6y ago
I used a case briefly but stopped (after it was damaged when I had precariously balanced it about 2m above the ground to use it as a torch and then knocked it to the tiles below). I don’t really suffer from the prevalence of broken screens. Am I just careful or is if from people with loose pockets running around or moving some other way (eg skateboarding)? I occasionally drop it from my pocket onto not-too-hard ground without damage and I bent the corner a bit dropping it on tarmac when I was drunk once but otherwise it’s unscathed. Maybe I’m just super lucky.
stinky613 6y ago
I have an iPad Pro with the Magic Keyboard. The magnetic attachment is fantastic. I can hold the palmrest on the keyboard, turn the whole thing upside down, and shake it without the iPad falling off. From my first day of using them together all I could think was "I want this connection method on every tablet and phone" Also, btw, the iPhone 12 MagSafe doesn't prevent you from using a case.
mlindner 6y ago
Never used a case never broken a phone. I don't get why everyone is so butter fingers.
can16358p 6y ago
I never used a case. Only once my iPhone catapulted from my pocket once and the screen was broken, but still, that repair wasn't worth enough for me to use an ugly protector that kills the whole design of the iPhone.
csmiller 6y ago
I never use cases, I hate how dirt gets in the gap between the phone and the case.
thirdsun 6y ago
Another user without a case reporting in. I udnerstand that people try to protect their expensive devices, but it seems absurd to me to hide a beautiful device like an iPhone (particularly the 4-5 as well as the new 12 generation) in some form of mediocre wrapper. However when carrying the phone in my pocket or bag I always use a fabric sleeve with microfiber inner lining. To me this approach is the best of both worlds: The pure device when in use, but protection when carrying it around - Plus, instead of having to put the device down on hard surfaces the sleeve serves as a soft bed for the phone. And the microfiber lining keeps the display clean. All my past iPhones looked pretty much pristine when I sold them on ebay.
gwd 6y ago
I didn't use a case for my iPhone 3g. Or 4s. Or 5s. Dropped them all several times, never had more than dings on the metal edges. Did the same for my 6S, and cracked the screen three times. The third it cracked time I upgraded to an iPhone XS; but my wife insisted I get a case, and it was hard to argue against. I'm really glad they've moved back to the (apparently) more robust form factor of having squarish metal edges. I look forward to not having to use a case the next time I update.