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how does this really help the environment when users will just buy these from 3rd parties? seems like it just reduces apple's emissions but doesnt reduce overal

by ffggvv 6y ago

how does this really help the environment when users will just buy these from 3rd parties? seems like it just reduces apple's emissions but doesnt reduce overall emissions. in fact, other companies peripherals probably have a "dirtier" process thats worse for the environment and arent as durable

alpaca128 6y ago
> arent as durable I've heard a lot of opinions about iPhone charging cables, but "durable" was usually not the common description. Solid charging cables will probably outlast multiple cables that come with phones in the box and often have warranties longer than any you get from Apple by default. Also I have at least 5 USB charging cables lying around here and not a single one has died so far. It is undoubtedly better for the environment if I can just keep using them for 5+ more years instead of getting a new one with every electronic product.
ebg13 6y ago
I currently have half a dozen unused phone chargers in a box that I didn't actually want because I already have more functional multiport chargers in my house. The moment you move from your first phone with an included charger to your second or third phone with an included charger, one of those chargers has a high likelihood of becoming effectively pointless. Not because the new one is any different. Just because now you have two when you only needed one.
- ffggvv 6y ago
  that assumes they last forever, which they don't. assuming most people upgrade every few years, i gaurantee their original cords dont last
  - ebg13 6y ago
    Chargers and cords are distinct products. And Apple's chargers do basically last forever.
psychometry 6y ago
Because they'll buy them once and keep using them as long as they work. I don't use Apple earbuds because they suck and I have a drawer full of lightning cables and a/c adapters, so why would I want more?
burlesona 6y ago
These days almost everyone is buying AirPods to go with their new phone, or using the nice headphones they already have. While I’m sure there are still some people who are brand new to iPhone, at this point the market is so saturated that the large majority already have multiple chargers and headphones sitting around.

by ffggvv 6y ago

alpaca128 6y ago

> arent as durable I've heard a lot of opinions about iPhone charging cables, but "durable" was usually not the common description. Solid charging cables will probably outlast multiple cables that come with phones in the box and often have warranties longer than any you get from Apple by default. Also I have at least 5 USB charging cables lying around here and not a single one has died so far. It is undoubtedly better for the environment if I can just keep using them for 5+ more years instead of getting a new one with every electronic product.

ebg13 6y ago

I currently have half a dozen unused phone chargers in a box that I didn't actually want because I already have more functional multiport chargers in my house. The moment you move from your first phone with an included charger to your second or third phone with an included charger, one of those chargers has a high likelihood of becoming effectively pointless. Not because the new one is any different. Just because now you have two when you only needed one.

ffggvv 6y ago
that assumes they last forever, which they don't. assuming most people upgrade every few years, i gaurantee their original cords dont last
- ebg13 6y ago
  Chargers and cords are distinct products. And Apple's chargers do basically last forever.

psychometry 6y ago

Because they'll buy them once and keep using them as long as they work. I don't use Apple earbuds because they suck and I have a drawer full of lightning cables and a/c adapters, so why would I want more?

burlesona 6y ago

These days almost everyone is buying AirPods to go with their new phone, or using the nice headphones they already have. While I’m sure there are still some people who are brand new to iPhone, at this point the market is so saturated that the large majority already have multiple chargers and headphones sitting around.