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"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping
by kossTKR 6y ago
"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol.
It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself.
In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6.
The mini seems like a good size for me. The Pro 12 looks absolutely amazing though! I usually don't fanboy but goddamn their product design is stellar.
- allenu 6y agoI was genuinely confused when it was in her hand. It looked like a regular-sized phone or even slightly bigger than one.
- tpmx 6y agoThey had to find a huge guy with giant hands to show how "small" it was in the commercial segment following that part.
- Austin_Conlon 6y agoReminds me of when they ran an ad with Yao Ming using a 12-inch PowerBook: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvbuwfawqcc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvbuwfawqcc.
- hedgehog 6y agoThat followed the original PowerBook ad with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in middle seat, middle section, coach to highlight how small the computer was: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr5jdvAhxoM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr5jdvAhxoM
- threatofrain 6y agoHere's an iPhone 5 advertisement about that exact feature. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af0gtsjfy7E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af0gtsjfy7E
- robbyking 6y agoI think I'm the only person who likes iOS's reachability gesture. The only annoying thing about it is sometimes it will trigger touchUpInside for buttons along the bottom of the screen, navigating me away from the screen I was on.
- threatofrain 6y agoIMO the reachability gesture improves about 20% of situations where one more tap is required, and for all the other situations I find I need more than one tap.
- throwaway894345 6y agoI would say my usage is inverted. 80% of the time it's one-tap; however, of that 80%, 90% is just hitting the back button. Move the back button to the bottom where it's reachable with one hand and ~75% of the use case for reachability is solved (for me, at least).
- throwaway894345 6y agoI fully agree. It's insane that Apple makes screens too big to use with one hand AND puts important controls like the back button at the top of the screen. Like you were saying, it's really frustrating that the reachability gesture triggers things in apps--e.g., Twitter's navigation menu completely overlaps with the reachability gesture area, so you can virtually never hit the "back" button because the reachability gesture will reliably send you to Twitter's "search" page.
- Bud 6y agoYou don't need to use the back button anymore, if that helps. You can now double-tap anywhere on the back of the phone to go Back.
- throwaway894345 6y ago
- ghaff 6y agoI've liked the iPhone X size but I do have big hands. I also find that I certainly feel more secure holding with a case with rubberized edges. Using it in one hand is sort of important to me. In normal times I often have a phone in one hand and food/beverage in another at events. The Plus sizes have always felt a bit too large to me. I would have upgraded this year normally. With travel mostly shut down for a while though, I may end waiting another year. I don't need an upgrade for mostly using around the house.
- suyash 6y agoBelieve it or not the 'mini' used to the the standard smartphone size. As it goes in America, bigger = better so that is what you get.
- reaperducer 6y agoAs it goes in America, bigger = better so that is what you get. The bigger phone trend actually started in Korea, and spread to China. It was several years before large phones came to the United States.
- sharadov 6y agoRemember the Samsung Note. My first big smartphone was the Samsung.
- redisman 6y agoI believe the trend is more about people using their phones as their main computing device so a bigger screen is desirable to many. I'm still on the original iPhone SE but the battery is definitely on it's last legs.
- tfehring 6y agoFWIW, I just got an original SE new in the box for around $130 a few months ago after my last one went for a swim, and it came with 96% of the original battery capacity as reported by iOS. My goal was for it to just last me until the 12 came out, but I'm still on the fence about whether the better camera (and water resistance...) are worth the additional bulk.
- caiob 6y ago> "The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. Proof that Americans will use anything but the metric system. Haha
- forrestthewoods 6y agoApple resisted phablets for years. When they finally released their first “plus” sized phone sales were through the roof. In absolute numbers there’s a good market for “mini” (or smaller) phones. But relatively speaking it’s a niche. The market has spoken! But fortunately the market is literally billions of smartphone users so there’s a lot of room for variety.
- Eric_WVGG 6y ago"relatively speaking it's a niche" It's equally as ridiculous to say "small phones are a niche" in 2019 when nobody was selling small phones, as it was to say "phablets are a niche" in 2013 when Apple wasn't selling a big phone. I would bet that the Mini will be a runaway bestseller.
- forrestthewoods 6y ago> I would bet that the Mini will be a runaway bestseller. Sure. How would you like to define your bet? And how much do you wish to wager?
- jdeibele 6y agoNot the parent but my daughters have refused to upgrade from their original iPhone SEs because all the newer phones are so much bigger and more slippery. Personally, I went from an 8+ to an 11 because the 11 fits better in my pants pocket. I thought about the 11 Pro just because of the smaller size but couldn't justify the price. Six months from now (after 5G gets proven one way or the other) the 12 Mini would be really tempting.
- forrestthewoods 6y agoIf only 5% of new iPhones sold were mini probably they’d sell 10 million a year. Is that a runaway hit, a niche device, or both?
- Eric_WVGG 6y ago
- caymanjim 6y agoEven the iPhone 6 is too big to use one-handed, and I have giant sasquatch hands. I got one from work when they first came out, and ended up sticking with my iPhone 5. I also really dislike the protruding camera lens, and now all phones do that. The phone can't even lie flat on a surface. Bigger is not better. I use a Pixel 2 right now, and it's the perfect size for my hand. It also has a protruding lens, but with a slim cover, it's fine.
- boogies 6y agoDon’t some Pixels have a sloping back instead of a camera bump so they can lie flat?
- dont__panic 6y agoThe original Pixel 1 did, but every Pixel since has featured a camera bump.
- agumonkey 6y agomarketing is absurdly relative and cyclic, smartphone sold you custom icons and wallpapers just like microsoft salesmen did in 82. Now they'll try to make small looks cool again. Wait for the iphone nano with only half a screen and new piezohaptic actuator matrix underneath.
- jon-wood 6y ago> Wait for the iphone nano with only half a screen and new piezohaptic actuator matrix underneath. It’s called the Apple Watch.
- EGreg 6y agoBut how big is it??? I waited years to get the SE2 and it turned out to be the size of iPhone 8. The same iPhone 8 that introduced the double-tap to fix the “thumb reach problem” which Apple usd to proudly tout for the ORIGINAL iPhone 5 and SE. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6K3lTwGxMTk https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6K3lTwGxMTk
- Nition 6y agoThe original iPhone SE (same size as the iPhone 5) would have about a 5" screen if it was edge-to-edge[1], and this is 5.4", so probably larger than the old SE and smaller than the new SE. [1] An old diagram I made: https://i.imgur.com/OKZiWrN.png https://i.imgur.com/OKZiWrN.png Edit, confirmed here: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?device1=iphoneSE&device2=iphone12mini&device3=iphoneSE2ndgen https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?device1=iphoneSE&devic...
- closetohome 6y agoThe "reach" gesture was actually introduced with the iPhone 6 Plus, due to its larger size.
- derefr 6y agoPhablets also fit in the palms of some people’s hands. There’s a surprisingly wide range of human variation in hand size. My larger-limbed friends used to complain about how hard it was to operate dinky candy-bar phones with their large fingers. And today, they’re perfectly happy holding and tapping on a Galaxy S20 Ultra, presuming the display has been scaled up.
- jansan 6y agoRemember when they used a person with extra large hands for advertising the iPhone 1, so it looked smaller? If you consider how phone sizes have developed, it is quite funny IMO. This may be the Ad from 2007: https://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/04/iphone.jpg https://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/04/iphone.jpg
- nemetroid 6y agoEven a 2016 iPhone SE is significantly larger than the candy-bars of yore, though. I have large hands (my hand span, thumb to pinky, measures 26 cm). I have an iPhone 7 for work, and while it does fit in my palm, it does so much less comfortably than my SE. Going even larger is a non-starter. Yes, there are people with hands large enough that phablets fit in them, but only if you loosen the definition of "fit".
- Keyframe 6y agoWhat do you mean by product design here? Tbh, I couldn't tell it apart from any other recent phone, let alone iphone.
- smusamashah 6y agoIt's same as iphone 4
- odiroot 6y ago> It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. Sony was the last one in Android world to offer it to us. Now, even they chickened out.
- cmrdporcupine 6y agoLooks about the same as Pixel 3 screen (5.5" I believe). That's what I'm carrying now and it's the only reasonably sized phone I have had in years. I would love a 4.5" or 4" phone.
- iso947 6y agoI don’t care about the size of the screen. I care about the width, and to a lesser extent the height. The 12 mini looks just about reasonable, will find out next month if it actually is.
- odiroot 6y agoSony hasn't had a true compact phone since Xperia XZ2 Compact. They abandoned the line after 2018.
- akvadrako 6y agoThe rumor is they'll release a new compact next year. For now the Google Pixel 4a/5 are the most compact decent phones you can get.
- cmrdporcupine 6y agoI'm blown away that 5.4" is "mini". I'd pay decent money for a 4" phone.
- pat2man 6y agoThe iPhone 4 width was 2.31 inches. The iPhone 12 mini's width is 2.65 inches. It's not insanely bigger.
- wwweston 6y agoA third of an inch is definitely enough to affect one-handed reach/operation (ask anyone who's played typical electric vs classical guitars), but it is nice that the mini's part of the lineup, and I might even replace my trusty 5SE with the 12 mini in a year or so, depending on how much performance issues are starting to show for the SE and how annoying/easy audio and other interconnectivity is on the port-handicapped phones. (Yes, I know, airpod/bluetooth connectivity works well for your use case. No, that doesn't mean it's not inconvenient and maybe even product-choice-driving for other people.)
- iso947 6y agoCompletely agree with you. I’m typing this on my trusty SE. Work gave me an XR back in February which I tried for a week, horrendous device. While the lack of 3.5mm is a drawback, the phone looks only a few mm wider that the (2016)SE, which feels like the best I’m going to get befor they EOL the SE. The wireless charging may be good enough to solve the clunkyness of having to have a lightning+3.5mm adapter.
- jbay808 6y ago(For the rest of us, the difference is 8.6 mm, or somewhere between the width of a pencil and an AAA battery).
- macjohnmcc 6y agoMy wife has the Se based on the iPhone 5 and I have the iPhone Xs Max. When I look at her phone it reminds me of looking in the viewfinder of a digital camera. She likes the size and will stick with smaller.
- vmception 6y agoFunny you say that, I use my X series phones without a case and didn't with my 6
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- secretsatan 6y agoI was looking at the bit when they showed that gaming app and I kept looking at the phone in her hands and thinking it was a max, but they hadn't shown the pro max yet and thought they were swapping different phones in and out for different shots, but I think she just had tiny hands. (Relatively, I probably just have massive hands)