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"As far as I’m concerned, administering it to infected patients now constitutes medical malpractice. I have no interest in goalpost-moving efforts to say that t
by gridlockd 6y ago
"As far as I’m concerned, administering it to infected patients now constitutes medical malpractice. I have no interest in goalpost-moving efforts to say that they didn’t administer zinc or azithromycin, or they picked the wrong patients or the wrong loading dose or whatever. No."
The original treatment protocol included zinc, so it's nonsense to say that adding in zinc is "moving the goalpost". Not testing in combination with zinc is moving the goalpost. The interaction between zinc and HCQ is key. Azithromycin is just to prevent potential secondary bacterial infection, which isn't necessarily a big factor in COVID mortality.
"This is special pleading, and it is not backed up by any hard data."
Here's a study that showed adding zinc to HCQ reduced mortality by 50%:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32930657/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32930657/
Unfortunately, that study didn't test zinc without HCQ, but the hypothesis is that HCQ acts as an ionophore and is therefore beneficial.
- rsynnott 6y ago> The original treatment protocol included zinc Eh? No, it didn't. People started talking about zinc when it became clear that Raoult's results weren't reproducible.
- gridlockd 6y agoYou're right about Raoult not mentioning zinc, but Zelenko used zinc from the beginning. Also, significant reduction in mortality using HCQ alone early during the treatment has been reproduced: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.09.20184143v1 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.09.20184143v... The earlier trials weren't testing prophylactic treatment.
- Izkata 6y agoSwitzerland accidentally performed such an experiment on their population as well - also showing HCQ saves lives: http://www.francesoir.fr/sites/francesoir/files/20200713_fs_hcq_preuve_final_sw_1.jpg http://www.francesoir.fr/sites/francesoir/files/20200713_fs_... Image from http://www.francesoir.fr/societe-sante/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-works-irrefutable-proof http://www.francesoir.fr/societe-sante/covid-19-hydroxychlor...