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Cool tech. And I'm all for making integrated circuits and components more dense and space efficient. But I also wish that wouldn't result in the devices getting

Cool tech. And I'm all for making integrated circuits and components more dense and space efficient. But I also wish that wouldn't result in the devices getting unreasonably thin/fragile. I'd rather have a sturdier device with 2-3x the battery capacity any day. As it is, I put a bulky case/screen protector and carry a spare battery and cable. Not exactly an ideal solution.

deergomoo 6y ago
> But I also wish that wouldn't result in the devices getting unreasonably thin/fragile. I'd rather have a sturdier device with 2-3x the battery capacity any day Is that still the case though? I'm not sure about the Android world, but the last several iPhones have been getting thicker and heavier with bigger batteries, to the point that I would say the iPhone 11 is heavier than I'd like. Fragility I agree with, but I think it's less the thinness and more that every high-end phone now has a glass back for wireless charging. I tend not to use cases and I've never once charged my phone wirelessly (and really don't care about it), so I wish there was an option for an aluminium back.
Cthulhu_ 6y ago
There's some phone manufacturers that optimize for battery capacity and / or sturdiness; CAT has lent their brand to stupidly sturdy phones that can be yote freely (https://www.catphones.com/ https://www.catphones.com/).
- a5withtrrs 6y ago
  This is actually fantastic, I can't believe I haven't seen it before. Especially the Pro variant with a thermal camera. Thanks!
Analemma_ 6y ago
Every generation of the iPhone after the 6 has been thicker, with more battery capacity, than the previous one. Where is this meme about "they just keep making the phones thinner with worse battery life" coming from?
- skygazer 6y ago
  It’s a hold over from 2014. Once a criticism, always a criticism. A tangential quote about the persistence of old, uninformed ideas: “A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. . . . An important scientific innovation rarely makes its way by gradually winning over and converting its opponents: it rarely happens that Saul becomes Paul. What does happen is that its opponents gradually die out, and that the growing generation is familiarized with the ideas from the beginning: another instance of the fact that the future lies with the youth.” — Max Planck, Scientific autobiography, 1950
- jdofaz 6y ago
  The 8 had 1821 mAh and the 7 had 1960 mAh battery
- HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
  Not true I don't follow iphones super closely but I remember they reduced thr battery capacity at least once.

deergomoo 6y ago

> But I also wish that wouldn't result in the devices getting unreasonably thin/fragile. I'd rather have a sturdier device with 2-3x the battery capacity any day Is that still the case though? I'm not sure about the Android world, but the last several iPhones have been getting thicker and heavier with bigger batteries, to the point that I would say the iPhone 11 is heavier than I'd like. Fragility I agree with, but I think it's less the thinness and more that every high-end phone now has a glass back for wireless charging. I tend not to use cases and I've never once charged my phone wirelessly (and really don't care about it), so I wish there was an option for an aluminium back.

Cthulhu_ 6y ago

There's some phone manufacturers that optimize for battery capacity and / or sturdiness; CAT has lent their brand to stupidly sturdy phones that can be yote freely (https://www.catphones.com/ https://www.catphones.com/).

a5withtrrs 6y ago
This is actually fantastic, I can't believe I haven't seen it before. Especially the Pro variant with a thermal camera. Thanks!

Analemma_ 6y ago

Every generation of the iPhone after the 6 has been thicker, with more battery capacity, than the previous one. Where is this meme about "they just keep making the phones thinner with worse battery life" coming from?

skygazer 6y ago
It’s a hold over from 2014. Once a criticism, always a criticism. A tangential quote about the persistence of old, uninformed ideas: “A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. . . . An important scientific innovation rarely makes its way by gradually winning over and converting its opponents: it rarely happens that Saul becomes Paul. What does happen is that its opponents gradually die out, and that the growing generation is familiarized with the ideas from the beginning: another instance of the fact that the future lies with the youth.” — Max Planck, Scientific autobiography, 1950
jdofaz 6y ago
The 8 had 1821 mAh and the 7 had 1960 mAh battery
HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
Not true I don't follow iphones super closely but I remember they reduced thr battery capacity at least once.