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For reference, the Guild's tweet [1] (since deleted): "It says a lot about an organization when it breaks it's own rules and goes after one of it's own. The ac
by dexen 6y ago
For reference, the Guild's tweet [1] (since deleted):
"It says a lot about an organization when it breaks it's own rules and goes after one of it's own. The act, like the article, reeks."
The tweet was condemning an op-ed by Bret Stephens[2], that applied mild criticism to The 1619 Project's playing fast-and-loose with history.
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[1] https://archive.is/705Tu https://archive.is/705Tu
[2] https://archive.is/GTx3B https://archive.is/GTx3B
- yostrovs 6y agoThe grammatical errors are disturbing to see, considering it's a tweet by a guild of New York Times.
- dexen 6y agoThe NYT has undergone a rapid replacement of its staff as of recent. Expect to see 30 year-olds in the "senior" roles.
- belval 6y agoEven if not senior, these are not advanced grammar mistakes. A quick re-read would have caught those. It gives water to the other tweet indicating that whoever wrote this did not inform the guild beforehand.
- marcusverus 6y agoThe person in charge of the NYT guild Twitter account doesn't know it's from its. The newspaper of record, everyone. A nice reminder that these types are always the loudest, but rarely the best and brightest of the bunch.
- belval 6y agoThank you for taking the time to link the article, that was a very good read. I find it a stunning display of arrogance that journalists feel free to rewrite history in spite of multiple historians telling them that they are flat out wrong. Do they not understand that by doing these mental gymnastics to fit history to their biases, they are acting in bad faith exactly like a certain politician lying for public approval?
- AnimalMuppet 6y agoBut, but, but... we're doing it from our side! Unlike him, who is doing it from the wrong side! It's completely different! /s
- theandrewbailey 6y agoIt gets worse: https://twitter.com/benyt/status/1315451891338313728 https://twitter.com/benyt/status/1315451891338313728 > Someone else active in the Times Union tells me that a leader of the chapter, who runs the account, tweeted about the Stephens column without any internal discussion, causing a furor in Slack and drawing heated objections from others in the Guild, and leading to this
- detaro 6y agoIs that worse, or better?
- theandrewbailey 6y agoIt suggests that said leader in the journalist's union might not be a journalist, but an activist.
- belval 6y agoI'd call that better. It shows that at the very least some people inside their groups are willing the discuss and debate. The level of groupthink is probably lower than previously thought and the guild might be salvageable.
- dexen 6y agoIt gets worse: https://archive.is/mlK3D https://archive.is/mlK3D Dean Baquet, the executive editor: >That criticism I firmly reject. The project fell fully within our standards as a news organization. In fact, 1619 - and especially the work of Nikole - fill me with pride. Any dissent got quashed from high above.
- jgalt212 6y agoDean is leading like a leader who cares more about keeping his job than doing a good job.