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The only reason that Spotify is a "convenience" is because of the laws that the record companies bought for themselves.

by bosswipe 6y ago

echelon 6y ago
Here's the answer. In twenty years, ML is going to wipe the slate clean.
- emptyparadise 6y ago
  The only ML I can picture wiping away copyright laws is Marxism-Leninism.
- coldtea 6y ago
  What ML even has to do with it? Assuming you mean "Machine Learning".
  - echelon 6y ago
    > What ML even has to do with it? Assuming you mean "Machine Learning". That's exactly what I mean. There's a change coming that will disrupt everything. Generative music will replace musicians and art will become dirt cheap - effectively valued the same as the memes on Reddit and Twitter. The same thing that happened to photography is coming to music, film, and games. https://github.com/r9y9/nnsvs https://github.com/r9y9/nnsvs https://github.com/NVIDIA/mellotron https://github.com/NVIDIA/mellotron https://github.com/xushengyuan/FastSing2 https://github.com/xushengyuan/FastSing2 https://github.com/jik876/hifi-gan-demo https://github.com/jik876/hifi-gan-demo https://github.com/bshall/VectorQuantizedCPC https://github.com/bshall/VectorQuantizedCPC And I can keep going. It's such a fertile field. Vocalists can and will be improved upon, duplicated, and generated. Instruments played to match any style or theme desired. Entire albums generated in seconds. The latent space will yield more than any human could conceive. Of course artists will still exist, but they'll exist in a space that is much bigger and more complicated than today. The tooling will also help them make more and become more productive. I think the cheapness of it all will erode copyright. Companies like Spotify will simply be selling bandwidth, which doesn't sound like a profitable venture. I give it a twenty year time horizon to be safe, but it'll probably be faster.
    - stnmtn 6y ago
      I don't understand, do you think people only care about music? Or do they care about the artist behind the music, seeing them on tour, connecting with them on a human level, etc. Nothing makes me think that the average person would ever choose music they know is generated over another human being creating something they want to create. It will be nothing more than a novelty

The only reason that Spotify is a "convenience" is because of the laws that the record companies bought for themselves.

echelon 6y ago

Here's the answer. In twenty years, ML is going to wipe the slate clean.

emptyparadise 6y ago
The only ML I can picture wiping away copyright laws is Marxism-Leninism.
coldtea 6y ago
What ML even has to do with it? Assuming you mean "Machine Learning".
- echelon 6y ago
  > What ML even has to do with it? Assuming you mean "Machine Learning". That's exactly what I mean. There's a change coming that will disrupt everything. Generative music will replace musicians and art will become dirt cheap - effectively valued the same as the memes on Reddit and Twitter. The same thing that happened to photography is coming to music, film, and games. https://github.com/r9y9/nnsvs https://github.com/r9y9/nnsvs https://github.com/NVIDIA/mellotron https://github.com/NVIDIA/mellotron https://github.com/xushengyuan/FastSing2 https://github.com/xushengyuan/FastSing2 https://github.com/jik876/hifi-gan-demo https://github.com/jik876/hifi-gan-demo https://github.com/bshall/VectorQuantizedCPC https://github.com/bshall/VectorQuantizedCPC And I can keep going. It's such a fertile field. Vocalists can and will be improved upon, duplicated, and generated. Instruments played to match any style or theme desired. Entire albums generated in seconds. The latent space will yield more than any human could conceive. Of course artists will still exist, but they'll exist in a space that is much bigger and more complicated than today. The tooling will also help them make more and become more productive. I think the cheapness of it all will erode copyright. Companies like Spotify will simply be selling bandwidth, which doesn't sound like a profitable venture. I give it a twenty year time horizon to be safe, but it'll probably be faster.
  - stnmtn 6y ago
    I don't understand, do you think people only care about music? Or do they care about the artist behind the music, seeing them on tour, connecting with them on a human level, etc. Nothing makes me think that the average person would ever choose music they know is generated over another human being creating something they want to create. It will be nothing more than a novelty