There are many kinds of open pollinated varieties that can be grown from seed. Many still used for cider making today. The market varieties are hybrids and won’

There are many kinds of open pollinated varieties that can be grown from seed. Many still used for cider making today. The market varieties are hybrids and won’t grow true to parents like you said. In fact, they might not set any fruit at all and you might not even know for 8 years!