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> Android mobile gaming is a multi-billion dollar industry. Guess what isn't? Linux desktop gaming. Again, focusing on the current state and not what some even

by hansvm 6y ago

> Android mobile gaming is a multi-billion dollar industry. Guess what isn't? Linux desktop gaming. Again, focusing on the current state and not what some eventual steady state might be if Linux were better supported. > Selection bias. I'm guessing you know a lot more Linux users than the average person. Definitely true (and I had already explicitly called that out), but the fact that those people exist at all lends plausibility to the idea that the set of people who want Linux but want Windows games might be non-negligible and points to the logical flaw in using the current count of Linux gamers to determine what that market might look like if Microsoft weren't interfering (if they are, not sure on that at all -- taking ancestor comments at face value for now for the sake of argument).

tomnipotent 6y ago
> determine what that market might look like if Microsoft weren't interfering Can we stop beating a dead horse? There is no Linux desktop market. The year of the Linux desktop isn't here, unlike mobile. Microsoft isn't interfering in anything, there just isn't good business incentive for Linux desktop gaming. Linux desktop gaming will take off when Linux desktop usages takes off, not the other way around. In fact, if you want to take aim at anyone it should be NVidia and AMD for Linux driver support.
- shmerl 6y ago
  Sounds again like something MS would say. Could you drop this condescending tone? It's not helping your arguments. There is Linux desktop market, including for gaming. Check your facts. It's a smaller market, but it exists even if you don't like it. I'm saying it as someone who buys Linux games.
  - tomnipotent 6y ago
    > Check your facts I did, actually, seeing how I'm the only one of us providing any numbers or research. You're trying to appeal to emotion, and it's not working. Businesses have decided not to jump on the Linux desktop market, despite you feeling entitled to their services and labor.
    - shmerl 6y ago
      Trying to debunk this demagoguery is a waste of time. I'll continue being part of the Linux gaming market, and you can claim that it doesn't exist, while whitewashing anti-competitive behavior of MS and the like. That's totally going to convince anyone who can look at actual stores that sell Linux games which supposedly shouldn't exist according to Linux deniers.

by hansvm 6y ago

tomnipotent 6y ago

> determine what that market might look like if Microsoft weren't interfering Can we stop beating a dead horse? There is no Linux desktop market. The year of the Linux desktop isn't here, unlike mobile. Microsoft isn't interfering in anything, there just isn't good business incentive for Linux desktop gaming. Linux desktop gaming will take off when Linux desktop usages takes off, not the other way around. In fact, if you want to take aim at anyone it should be NVidia and AMD for Linux driver support.

shmerl 6y ago
Sounds again like something MS would say. Could you drop this condescending tone? It's not helping your arguments. There is Linux desktop market, including for gaming. Check your facts. It's a smaller market, but it exists even if you don't like it. I'm saying it as someone who buys Linux games.
- tomnipotent 6y ago
  > Check your facts I did, actually, seeing how I'm the only one of us providing any numbers or research. You're trying to appeal to emotion, and it's not working. Businesses have decided not to jump on the Linux desktop market, despite you feeling entitled to their services and labor.
  - shmerl 6y ago
    Trying to debunk this demagoguery is a waste of time. I'll continue being part of the Linux gaming market, and you can claim that it doesn't exist, while whitewashing anti-competitive behavior of MS and the like. That's totally going to convince anyone who can look at actual stores that sell Linux games which supposedly shouldn't exist according to Linux deniers.