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I have yet to see a human being thats happy about Microsoft edge that's getting shoved down his throat every other windows update. Or one that loves the way eve

I have yet to see a human being thats happy about Microsoft edge that's getting shoved down his throat every other windows update. Or one that loves the way every mildly interesting aspect about vscode is proprietary. Or directx12, because why support vulkan when you can just continue locking as many programs to your platform as possible. Also both telemetry and forced updates impose a giant problem for all administrators in every coporation i worked for since widows 10 was deployed, because they want to get rid of it from a security point of view but management refuses. A former colleague of mine quit his job because he couldn't handle the responsibility and had develeoped serious problems with sleep and general wellbeing

tomnipotent 6y ago
> I have yet to see a human being thats happy about Microsoft edge that's getting shoved down his throat every other windows update I absolutely hate Edge, and feel the same away about being unable to uninstall Safari on iOS/macOS. > directx12, because why support vulkan when you can just continue locking as many programs to your platform as possible They've invested decades into DX, I see no reason they should abandon that IP. > Also both telemetry and forced updates impose a giant problem for all administrators Windows 10 has group policy controls for IT admins to disable forced upgrades and telemetry. This sounds like complete dramatization.
- vetinari 6y ago
  > Windows 10 has group policy controls for IT admins to disable forced upgrades and telemetry. Only for some SKUs that not all organizations are eligible to license; even for those that are it represents additional expense. And even then, only partially. Telemetry cannot be completely disabled in any Windows 10 SKU. Forced updates can be controlled only via WSUS (by declining them). > This sounds like complete dramatization. Please do not inject your value judgements into discussion.
  - tomnipotent 6y ago
    > Only for some SKUs that not all organizations are eligible to license Who is prevented from Windows 10 Enterprise licenses, other than those already under specific sanctions? Windows 10 Server, Education, and IoT also support disabling telemetry. > Forced updates can be controlled only via WSUS (by declining them). They can be controlled via Group Policies, not to mention Microsoft abandoned (most) forced upgrades with the May 2019 Update. Explicit action is now required to install these updates (like you mentioned). The only updates that cannot be disabled are end of service updates, which are every 18 months.

tomnipotent 6y ago

> I have yet to see a human being thats happy about Microsoft edge that's getting shoved down his throat every other windows update I absolutely hate Edge, and feel the same away about being unable to uninstall Safari on iOS/macOS. > directx12, because why support vulkan when you can just continue locking as many programs to your platform as possible They've invested decades into DX, I see no reason they should abandon that IP. > Also both telemetry and forced updates impose a giant problem for all administrators Windows 10 has group policy controls for IT admins to disable forced upgrades and telemetry. This sounds like complete dramatization.

vetinari 6y ago
> Windows 10 has group policy controls for IT admins to disable forced upgrades and telemetry. Only for some SKUs that not all organizations are eligible to license; even for those that are it represents additional expense. And even then, only partially. Telemetry cannot be completely disabled in any Windows 10 SKU. Forced updates can be controlled only via WSUS (by declining them). > This sounds like complete dramatization. Please do not inject your value judgements into discussion.
- tomnipotent 6y ago
  > Only for some SKUs that not all organizations are eligible to license Who is prevented from Windows 10 Enterprise licenses, other than those already under specific sanctions? Windows 10 Server, Education, and IoT also support disabling telemetry. > Forced updates can be controlled only via WSUS (by declining them). They can be controlled via Group Policies, not to mention Microsoft abandoned (most) forced upgrades with the May 2019 Update. Explicit action is now required to install these updates (like you mentioned). The only updates that cannot be disabled are end of service updates, which are every 18 months.