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>Today that would be an invitation to have your children seized by child protective services. This is a common refrain, but I've never seen more than one-or-tw

>Today that would be an invitation to have your children seized by child protective services. This is a common refrain, but I've never seen more than one-or-two anecdotal accounts of this happening. Do you have citations or articles that support common CPS intervention in cases like this? In my experience CPS is primarily focused on abuse and malnutrition, and tries everything possible to keep families together. Parents act like the world outside is scary and dangerous, despite declining crime rates. I think that many younger kids are in dual-income families, and are at after-school care from 3-6 every day. Those that aren't are often in after-school activities, and aren't home, bored with time to burn outside. If the kids are home, they'd rather play Fortnite or Call of Duty with their online friends than build a fort in the riverbed.

novok 6y ago
You don't see it in the news that much, but you get phone calls because nosy neighbour reports an unattended kid outside. Law in some places say that children have to be supervised until 12, etc. The phone calls create a chilling effect as parents tell other parents. So if you even want to avoid the helicopter parent trend, society forces you to be their chauffeur. So no, kids don't get taken away immediately, but the singular phone call is enough to stop it in %99 of cases. But here are some links (go through the links that the articles give too): * Started by some new stories: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/27/free-range-kids-children-can-now-play-outside-without-adult-supervision-utah/461590002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/27/fr... * The linked article author went through an entire lawsuit about this with BC's CPS: https://5kids1condo.com/we-won-common-sense-prevails-in-bus-dad-case/ https://5kids1condo.com/we-won-common-sense-prevails-in-bus-... I bet if you did 10 minutes of google research yourself you could find plenty more.
bobthepanda 6y ago
It's funny you ask; the person who runs the linked submission actually got told in 2017 that they had to keep their kids under constant supervision until they were 10, after an anonymous tip that they were letting their kids ride the bus unsupervised. They recently lost a legal battle but are continuing to appeal. http://5kids1condo.com/i-took-the-government-to-court-for-kids-independence-i-lost-for-now/ http://5kids1condo.com/i-took-the-government-to-court-for-ki...
- Snitch-Thursday 6y ago
  Update on the above case: upon appeal, they won their case, according to http://5kids1condo.com/we-won-common-sense-prevails-in-bus-dad-case/ http://5kids1condo.com/we-won-common-sense-prevails-in-bus-d...

novok 6y ago

You don't see it in the news that much, but you get phone calls because nosy neighbour reports an unattended kid outside. Law in some places say that children have to be supervised until 12, etc. The phone calls create a chilling effect as parents tell other parents. So if you even want to avoid the helicopter parent trend, society forces you to be their chauffeur. So no, kids don't get taken away immediately, but the singular phone call is enough to stop it in %99 of cases. But here are some links (go through the links that the articles give too): * Started by some new stories: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/27/free-range-kids-children-can-now-play-outside-without-adult-supervision-utah/461590002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/27/fr... * The linked article author went through an entire lawsuit about this with BC's CPS: https://5kids1condo.com/we-won-common-sense-prevails-in-bus-dad-case/ https://5kids1condo.com/we-won-common-sense-prevails-in-bus-... I bet if you did 10 minutes of google research yourself you could find plenty more.

bobthepanda 6y ago

It's funny you ask; the person who runs the linked submission actually got told in 2017 that they had to keep their kids under constant supervision until they were 10, after an anonymous tip that they were letting their kids ride the bus unsupervised. They recently lost a legal battle but are continuing to appeal. http://5kids1condo.com/i-took-the-government-to-court-for-kids-independence-i-lost-for-now/ http://5kids1condo.com/i-took-the-government-to-court-for-ki...

Snitch-Thursday 6y ago
Update on the above case: upon appeal, they won their case, according to http://5kids1condo.com/we-won-common-sense-prevails-in-bus-dad-case/ http://5kids1condo.com/we-won-common-sense-prevails-in-bus-d...